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Old 09-18-2007, 03:00 PM
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Well, that's because much (all? i'm not sure) of sabermetrics is about player evaluation, and that's the GM's job. So sure, while it may be the A's philosophy to take lots of pitches and have great plate discipline, it's largely self-fulfilled, because they go out and get guys who already do that.
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Old 09-18-2007, 03:03 PM
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Well, that's because much (all? i'm not sure) of sabermetrics is about player evaluation, and that's the GM's job. So sure, while it may be the A's philosophy to take lots of pitches and have great plate discipline, it's largely self-fulfilled, because they go out and get guys who already do that.

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Thats not really true, there are sabermetric applications to in-game strategy, stuff like bullpen management, base stealing, sacrifices, stuff like that.
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Old 09-18-2007, 03:07 PM
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Right. The in-game stuff is relevant too.
Plus, I think that saying "they go out and get guys who already do that" is really incorrect too.
A lot of it is the instruction they receive.

If you draft a bunch of guys out of high school or college ball who are really patient at the plate but want to teach them to be super-aggressive then they are going to do that too.

Players don't just stay the same and maintain the same approach all the way through their careers. It is really a constant learning process.
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Old 09-18-2007, 04:55 PM
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I can't find a working link to the original Sklansky article from the Mag but here's the discussion thread re: 4th down play calling.

http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/...te_id/1#import


oh and here's an academic paper with lots of math and symbols and footnotes and citations and stuff. Paper by David Romer, UC-Berkeley.

http://emlab.berkeley.edu/users/drom...s/nber9024.pdf
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Old 09-22-2007, 03:44 PM
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FOURTH AND SIX.

DOWN BY FIVE, FIVE MINUTES TO PLAY.

ON THE OPPONENTS TWENTY.

INSTEAD OF KICKING A FIELD GOAL WITH THE ACC'S LEADING KICKER, YOU GO FOR IT AND MISS. [censored] GAILEY.
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Old 09-22-2007, 03:50 PM
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FOURTH AND SIX.

DOWN BY FIVE, FIVE MINUTES TO PLAY.

ON THE OPPONENTS TWENTY.

INSTEAD OF KICKING A FIELD GOAL WITH THE ACC'S LEADING KICKER, YOU GO FOR IT AND MISS. [censored] GAILEY.

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FYS
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Old 09-22-2007, 04:02 PM
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Top 1st innign leadoff double vs a guy with a 6 ERA, the Mets are givign up about 100 runs per game and Willie just had Castillo sacrafice. His stupidty is astounding
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