Do we really know that online poker is on the level? I.E., not rigged

[corsakh]

You guys are really this stupid?

Running quads happen as often as they are dictated to happen by the probability. The reason you usually see this ridiculous suck outs performed by the fish on someone on tilt is because they put money in behind all the time. Hence the suck outs and hence the fish. This is what makes the freaking game work.

Of course your gonna see running quads and other crazy stuff happed way more often when your on tilt or playing badly simply cos you presumably will not be putting all your money in this spot under normal circumstance hence will not have a chance to see the suck out.

How often you can say "omfg if I only did not fold this pocket pair on the flop i would hit a set now" or "if i just payed off this gutshotdraw i would now stack him". Well guess what, for a fish - this a way of life. The suck outs are there, the variance is there, you want the glory - go for it [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

If you say that a hand can be staged against a winning player, then CTS and durr must have thousands of hands to prove it. How do the sites balance this off?

They dont? Then there must be a DB to prove it where cts gets more suckouts than he is supposed to.

They do? Then wtf is the difference. If I loose the amount of money that strictly abides by the probability laws (this means in a long run i loose and win as often and as much as i am meant to by the poker mechanics) - then i rather be loosing this money to a fish on tilt who will further donate this money back to the table economy, than some rival good player who is going to cash this out.

IE if some player is statistically "due" for a suck out, he should loose his money to some donkey, not to a good player. This is good for the fish. This is good for the poker economy. This is good for you. This is good for the poker site. What are you upset about? If such mechanism exists that controls it, its only for the best for all the parties involved.

If sucks outs do happen against the odds, there will be proof. If suck outs do happen and the odds abide, I rather see the moneys go to the fish.