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Pretty much what I expected 2 8.70%
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Not really what I expected 11 47.83%
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Old 09-15-2007, 10:41 PM
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Default Re: Beat: Absolute is *actually* rigged (serious) (read me)

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teddy, pt shot, plz.

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Have fun with this screenshot boys:

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Old 09-15-2007, 10:43 PM
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Default Re: Beat: Absolute is *actually* rigged (serious) (read me)

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teddy, pt shot, plz.

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Have fun with this screenshot boys:



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[img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img] Holy [censored] [censored]

Edit: Same for A2's screenshot.
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Old 09-15-2007, 10:47 PM
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Default Re: Beat: Absolute is *actually* rigged (serious) (read me)

I'm reading through ikestoys' HH and seeing this over and over:

Seat 1 - DAVIDP18 ($6300 in chips) [ 2007-09-06 23:37:10 ]
Seat 3 - DOUBLEDRAG ($18199.50 in chips)
Seat 6 - CASH369 ($5955 in chips)
Seat 5 - IKESTOYS ($6000 in chips)
Seat 2 - XAJA1 ($5580 in chips)
Seat 4 - FRISCOMELT ($9564 in chips)
XAJA1 - Posts small blind $15
DOUBLEDRAG - Posts big blind $30
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to IKESTOYS [10h 7s]
IKESTOYS - Raises $120 to $120
DOUBLEDRAG - Calls $90
*** FLOP *** [Qc 6d 5c]
DOUBLEDRAG - Checks
IKESTOYS - Bets $210
DOUBLEDRAG - Calls $210
*** TURN *** [Qc 6d 5c] [3s]
DOUBLEDRAG - Checks
IKESTOYS - Checks
*** RIVER *** [Qc 6d 5c 3s] [7c]
DOUBLEDRAG - Bets $1920
IKESTOYS - Calls $1920
*** SHOW DOWN ***
DOUBLEDRAG - Shows [Jc Jd] (One pair, jacks)

He check/calls 'the nuts' waiting for ike to hit a pair, then overbets like 5x pot with second pair hoping for a call.

This is one of a number of these hands. He also does a lot of minbet bluffing (and probably overbet bluffing) with second best hands, but never *calls* with a worse hand on any street of any hand I have seen go to showdown.

He's seeing people's cards. It's confirmed.
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Old 09-15-2007, 11:02 PM
Adebisi Adebisi is offline
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Default Re: Beat: Absolute is *actually* rigged (serious) (read me)

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I'm reading through ikestoys' HH and seeing this over and over:

Seat 1 - DAVIDP18 ($6300 in chips) [ 2007-09-06 23:37:10 ]
Seat 3 - DOUBLEDRAG ($18199.50 in chips)
Seat 6 - CASH369 ($5955 in chips)
Seat 5 - IKESTOYS ($6000 in chips)
Seat 2 - XAJA1 ($5580 in chips)
Seat 4 - FRISCOMELT ($9564 in chips)
XAJA1 - Posts small blind $15
DOUBLEDRAG - Posts big blind $30
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to IKESTOYS [10h 7s]
IKESTOYS - Raises $120 to $120
DOUBLEDRAG - Calls $90
*** FLOP *** [Qc 6d 5c]
DOUBLEDRAG - Checks
IKESTOYS - Bets $210
DOUBLEDRAG - Calls $210
*** TURN *** [Qc 6d 5c] [3s]
DOUBLEDRAG - Checks
IKESTOYS - Checks
*** RIVER *** [Qc 6d 5c 3s] [7c]
DOUBLEDRAG - Bets $1920
IKESTOYS - Calls $1920
*** SHOW DOWN ***
DOUBLEDRAG - Shows [Jc Jd] (One pair, jacks)

He check/calls 'the nuts' waiting for ike to hit a pair, then overbets like 5x pot with second pair hoping for a call.

This is one of a number of these hands. He also does a lot of minbet bluffing (and probably overbet bluffing) with second best hands, but never *calls* with a worse hand on any street of any hand I have seen go to showdown.

He's seeing people's cards. It's confirmed.

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The guy looks like he's ~90/70 preflop and he just flatcalls out of the bb with JJ against a steal raise when his opponent has T7o? That seems a little suspicious in itself regardless of the rest of the hand. Are there any hands with similar preflop positions where his opponent opens something like 99 or AJ and he overbet shoves with like TT or AQ?
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Old 09-15-2007, 11:07 PM
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Default Re: Beat: Absolute is *actually* rigged (serious) (read me)

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I'm reading through ikestoys' HH and seeing this over and over:

Seat 1 - DAVIDP18 ($6300 in chips) [ 2007-09-06 23:37:10 ]
Seat 3 - DOUBLEDRAG ($18199.50 in chips)
Seat 6 - CASH369 ($5955 in chips)
Seat 5 - IKESTOYS ($6000 in chips)
Seat 2 - XAJA1 ($5580 in chips)
Seat 4 - FRISCOMELT ($9564 in chips)
XAJA1 - Posts small blind $15
DOUBLEDRAG - Posts big blind $30
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to IKESTOYS [10h 7s]
IKESTOYS - Raises $120 to $120
DOUBLEDRAG - Calls $90
*** FLOP *** [Qc 6d 5c]
DOUBLEDRAG - Checks
IKESTOYS - Bets $210
DOUBLEDRAG - Calls $210
*** TURN *** [Qc 6d 5c] [3s]
DOUBLEDRAG - Checks
IKESTOYS - Checks
*** RIVER *** [Qc 6d 5c 3s] [7c]
DOUBLEDRAG - Bets $1920
IKESTOYS - Calls $1920
*** SHOW DOWN ***
DOUBLEDRAG - Shows [Jc Jd] (One pair, jacks)

He check/calls 'the nuts' waiting for ike to hit a pair, then overbets like 5x pot with second pair hoping for a call.

This is one of a number of these hands. He also does a lot of minbet bluffing (and probably overbet bluffing) with second best hands, but never *calls* with a worse hand on any street of any hand I have seen go to showdown.

He's seeing people's cards. It's confirmed.

[/ QUOTE ]

The guy looks like he's ~90/70 preflop and he just flatcalls out of the bb with JJ against a steal raise when his opponent has T7o? That seems a little suspicious in itself regardless of the rest of the hand. Are there any hands with similar preflop positions where his opponent opens something like 99 or AJ and he overbet shoves with like TT or AQ?

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he flatcalled my raise with 1010 later when i had AA, i think he was tightening up pf and using his advantage where it helps more, on later streets
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Old 09-15-2007, 11:08 PM
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Default Re: Beat: Absolute is *actually* rigged (serious) (read me)

also, has anybody heard something from absolute? they should get a rep in this thread.
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Old 09-15-2007, 11:15 PM
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Default Re: Beat: Absolute is *actually* rigged (serious) (read me)

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also, has anybody heard something from absolute? they should get a rep in this thread.

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Fwiw, i'll try emailing them as well.

I've played on absolute for a long time and they've always been very helpful and prompt with me, but mabye this is because I was probably one of the highest volume PLO and O8 players there for a time. (On a site not known for a great amount of omaha traffic) I've played close to 0 holdem hands there so I don't know if that will make a difference.

I'll let you know if/when I hear back.
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Old 09-15-2007, 10:54 PM
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Default Re: Beat: Absolute is *actually* rigged (serious) (read me)

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[img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img] Holy [censored] [censored]

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THAT'S the understatement of the year.
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Old 09-16-2007, 12:03 AM
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Default Re: Beat: Absolute is *actually* rigged (serious) (read me)

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teddy, pt shot, plz.

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Have fun with this screenshot boys:



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Again with the infinite river aggression factor. 100 hands and he never actually called on the river, yet managed to win over 300 big bets.
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