STTF SNG->cash thread

microbet · #1 09-15-2007, 10:08 PM

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http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...=1#Post12085982

i couldn't get an answer from the unl forum...

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You're limp re-raising AQo? f'real?

To answer your question, he doesn't have to have a lot of draws in his range, but with you having the Ah what draws do you put in his range. If he's real loose you can put some suited connectors in there and you're good, but if not, he has to be bluffing a lot even though you are getting 2 to 1.

It's a really bad spot that you shouldn't have been in though.

DevinLake · #2 09-15-2007, 10:11 PM

I'd insta call that 54cc hand. And I tell who ever was involved in the hand that they should know what they are doing to a raise when they donk the flop.

microbet · #3 09-15-2007, 10:31 PM

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I'd insta call that 54cc hand. And I tell who ever was involved in the hand that they should know what they are doing to a raise when they donk the flop.

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This wasn't me or anyone I know. I'm just following futuredoc's recommendation and studying my opponents.

The donk and call the push seems ok as your equity is almost certainly around 50%.

If either the donk bet gets flat called or if the flop goes chk/call the turn is hard to play for the BB.

Seems like donking is better than chk/call though cause your equity is never huge and it will always be fine if the other guy just folds. If he raises less than a push you can 3bet all in because your equity is close enough to 50/50 that you don't really need FE.

What if I put the question mark at the beginning of the flop?

Go for the check/raise?

cleinen · #4 11-09-2007, 10:39 AM

Pretty sure this is how you misplay AA postflop

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($236.45)
BB ($311.30)
UTG ($49.20)
MP ($119.65)
Button ($115.20)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls $1, 2 folds, Hero raises to $4, 1 fold, UTG calls $3.

Flop: ($9) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks.

Turn: ($9) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $4, Hero calls $4.

River: ($17) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $6, Hero raises to $228.45

futuredoc85 · #5 11-09-2007, 10:50 AM

$5 pf esp w/ how deep you and BB are, flop is ok sometimes. Turn is ok given flop but raise to like $10-$12 so you can shove river

DevinLake · #6 11-09-2007, 03:00 PM

I don't mind the flop check, but I usually bet to get value out of Kx, Qsx, Jsx, etc. Turn, I'm definitely betting. I want to build a pot with the nuts.

Slim Pickens · #7 11-09-2007, 03:06 PM

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Pretty sure this is how you misplay AA postflop

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($236.45)
BB ($311.30)
UTG ($49.20)
MP ($119.65)
Button ($115.20)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls $1, 2 folds, Hero raises to $4, 1 fold, UTG calls $3.

Flop: ($9) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks.

Turn: ($9) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $4, Hero calls $4.

River: ($17) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $6, Hero raises to $228.45

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I bet the flop, turn, and river. People will often jam the flop with a K and a worse flush draw.

tercet · #8 11-09-2007, 03:37 PM

Just did my first 24 tabling session of 25NL Full Ring... Was up 150 at one point but ended up only +50.50
Final Stats 3030 hands, I ran a super nitty 9.5/6.

snakekilla88 · #9 11-09-2007, 06:41 PM

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Pretty sure this is how you misplay AA postflop

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($236.45)
BB ($311.30)
UTG ($49.20)
MP ($119.65)
Button ($115.20)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls $1, 2 folds, Hero raises to $4, 1 fold, UTG calls $3.

Flop: ($9) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks.

Turn: ($9) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $4, Hero calls $4.

River: ($17) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $6, Hero raises to $228.45

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lolz how bad did you want to cr him? Mr. Tricky.

DevinLake · #10 11-09-2007, 08:27 PM

Villain was 43/13/1.8 after not many hands. No other reads.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

CO ($185)
Button ($398)
SB ($774.49)
BB ($342.90)
UTG ($376.26)
Hero ($587.20)

Preflop: Hero is MP with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises to $14, 2 folds, SB calls $12, BB calls $10.

Flop: ($42) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets $30, Hero calls $30, SB folds.

Turn: ($102) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $40, Hero ????

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