Beat: Absolute is *actually* rigged (serious) (read me)

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this [censored] is [censored] up. i mean, i don't understand a lot of it because this thread really doesn't say much, but so far i assume that..

a) absolute made an account that can see the hole cards of the other player (but not the cards to come on the turn and river)
b) lol

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fyp

ap's RNG: safe. ap's ability not to make superuser accounts that see everyone's hole cards: compromised

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If all this is actually true, do you see Absolute taking any steps to reimburse the victims?

A better question is do you think Absolute will ever admit to all this?

[adanthar]

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this [censored] is [censored] up. i mean, i don't understand a lot of it because this thread really doesn't say much, but so far i assume that..

a) absolute made an account that can see the hole cards of the other player (but not the cards to come on the turn and river)
b) lol

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fyp

ap's RNG: safe. ap's ability not to make superuser accounts that see everyone's hole cards: compromised

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If all this is actually true, do you see Absolute taking any steps to reimburse the victims?

A better question is do you think Absolute will ever admit to all this?

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How much faith do you have in AP's brilliant, industry leading customer service?

[Ganjasaurus Rex]

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this [censored] is [censored] up. i mean, i don't understand a lot of it because this thread really doesn't say much, but so far i assume that..

a) absolute made an account that can see the hole cards of the other player (but not the cards to come on the turn and river)
b) lol

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fyp

ap's RNG: safe. ap's ability not to make superuser accounts that see everyone's hole cards: compromised

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If all this is actually true, do you see Absolute taking any steps to reimburse the victims?

A better question is do you think Absolute will ever admit to all this?

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I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that Absolute will claim they were hacked and had nothing to do with this... blah, blah, blah. They'll tell us they've locked that "user's" account and have confiscated "his" funds. Then they will make noises about reimbursements, but never get around to doing anything.

Seriously, is ANYONE surprised to hear this about Absolute?

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this [censored] is [censored] up. i mean, i don't understand a lot of it because this thread really doesn't say much, but so far i assume that..

a) absolute made an account that can see the hole cards of the other player (but not the cards to come on the turn and river)
b) lol

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fyp

ap's RNG: safe. ap's ability not to make superuser accounts that see everyone's hole cards: compromised

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If all this is actually true, do you see Absolute taking any steps to reimburse the victims?

A better question is do you think Absolute will ever admit to all this?

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I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that Absolute will claim they were hacked and had nothing to do with this... blah, blah, blah. They'll tell us they've locked that "user's" account and have confiscated "his" funds. Then they will make noises about reimbursements, but never get around to doing anything.

Seriously, is ANYONE surprised to hear this about Absolute?

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I don't think Absolute would ever admit they were hacked or compromised in anyway. It would be so bad for their business and online poker in general.

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is there any evidence other than a few hands? and even if someone CAN see someone elses holecards, isnt it possible that its because of a trojan and not absolute's fault?

i mean its possible hes just retarded/bad... heres a hand my friend saw today on stars where someone called a river shove with 10 high:

PokerStars Game #12067296948: Hold'em No Limit ($3/$6) - 2007/09/15 - 04:16:08 (ET)
Table 'Miriam IV' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Luckycharm84 ($190.60 in chips)
Seat 2: kjell_morten ($576 in chips)
Seat 3: floes ($600 in chips)
Seat 4: jen&jes ($578.10 in chips)
Seat 5: Raidan909 ($621 in chips)
Seat 6: hook2120 ($690.20 in chips)
kjell_morten: posts small blind $3
floes: posts big blind $6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Raidan909 [2d Jh]
jen&jes: calls $6
Raidan909: folds
hook2120: calls $6
Luckycharm84: calls $6
kjell_morten: calls $3
floes: checks
*** FLOP *** [8c 4c 4d]
kjell_morten: bets $18
floes: folds
jen&jes: calls $18
hook2120: calls $18
Luckycharm84: folds
*** TURN *** [8c 4c 4d] [3d]
kjell_morten: checks
jen&jes: checks
hook2120: checks
*** RIVER *** [8c 4c 4d 3d] [6d]
kjell_morten: checks
jen&jes: bets $154
hook2120: raises $512.20 to $666.20 and is all-in
kjell_morten: folds
jen&jes: calls $400.10 and is all-in
*** SHOW DOWN ***
hook2120: shows [6s 6h] (a full house, Sixes full of Fours)
jen&jes: mucks hand
hook2120 collected $1189.20 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1192.20 | Rake $3
Board [8c 4c 4d 3d 6d]
Seat 1: Luckycharm84 (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: kjell_morten (small blind) folded on the River
Seat 3: floes (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: jen&jes mucked [Tc 9c]
Seat 5: Raidan909 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: hook2120 showed [6s 6h] and won ($1189.20) with a full house, Sixes full of Fours

not saying that nothing is going on... but is there more evidence than just "omg look this guy called with 10 high"?

that said i think it would be wise to stay out of the high stakes games on abs until this is resolved....

[thac]

Apparently this jen&jes guy is a high-stakes ABS player converted to PS (badly)

[keikiwai]

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is there any evidence other than a few hands? and even if someone CAN see someone elses holecards, isnt it possible that its because of a trojan and not absolute's fault?

i mean its possible hes just retarded/bad... heres a hand my friend saw today on stars where someone called a river shove with 10 high:

PokerStars Game #12067296948: Hold'em No Limit ($3/$6) - 2007/09/15 - 04:16:08 (ET)
Table 'Miriam IV' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Luckycharm84 ($190.60 in chips)
Seat 2: kjell_morten ($576 in chips)
Seat 3: floes ($600 in chips)
Seat 4: jen&jes ($578.10 in chips)
Seat 5: Raidan909 ($621 in chips)
Seat 6: hook2120 ($690.20 in chips)
kjell_morten: posts small blind $3
floes: posts big blind $6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Raidan909 [2d Jh]
jen&jes: calls $6
Raidan909: folds
hook2120: calls $6
Luckycharm84: calls $6
kjell_morten: calls $3
floes: checks
*** FLOP *** [8c 4c 4d]
kjell_morten: bets $18
floes: folds
jen&jes: calls $18
hook2120: calls $18
Luckycharm84: folds
*** TURN *** [8c 4c 4d] [3d]
kjell_morten: checks
jen&jes: checks
hook2120: checks
*** RIVER *** [8c 4c 4d 3d] [6d]
kjell_morten: checks
jen&jes: bets $154
hook2120: raises $512.20 to $666.20 and is all-in
kjell_morten: folds
jen&jes: calls $400.10 and is all-in
*** SHOW DOWN ***
hook2120: shows [6s 6h] (a full house, Sixes full of Fours)
jen&jes: mucks hand
hook2120 collected $1189.20 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1192.20 | Rake $3
Board [8c 4c 4d 3d 6d]
Seat 1: Luckycharm84 (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: kjell_morten (small blind) folded on the River
Seat 3: floes (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: jen&jes mucked [Tc 9c]
Seat 5: Raidan909 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: hook2120 showed [6s 6h] and won ($1189.20) with a full house, Sixes full of Fours

not saying that nothing is going on... but is there more evidence than just "omg look this guy called with 10 high"?

that said i think it would be wise to stay out of the high stakes games on abs until this is resolved....

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is this an elaborate level, or do you not understand that the cheating is on absolute, and when they make redic calls w/ T high, it's because they WIN the hand?

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Well, Keikiwai, if the dude that won that hand on Stars just now didn't have 66 but, instead, 97o, would you be suspicious?

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i think he's saying that crazy calls always happen. if the stars person won the hand with T high, would they be cheating?

I wonder if Jen or Jes made that call...

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is this an elaborate level, or do you not understand that the cheating is on absolute, and when they make redic calls w/ T high, it's because they WIN the hand?

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my point is that people sometimes DO call with 10 high and a very small % of the time they are going to be right. this is why you can't look at one hh and say "omg he can see peoples cards"

but it looks like theres actually a lot more evidence so.. yeah wow.