I don't like my QQ much.

[ofishstix]

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I call. To many draws and Jx hands that you beat to be able to fold imo.

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what draws? AKhh and AQhh. And in terms of the Jx hands he can only have AJ and I don't typically put unknowns on the bottom of their range as a rule of thumb.

[Wolfram]

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I call. To many draws and Jx hands that you beat to be able to fold imo.

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what draws? AKhh and AQhh. And in terms of the Jx hands he can only have AJ and I don't typically put unknowns on the bottom of their range as a rule of thumb.

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Why are you narrowing his range so much? Villain opened from MP and called a 3-bet. This is not enough info to assume that his range is that tight. I put all sorts of sc's in his range.

[RivFader]

Don't fold QQ in a RR pot if you get a good flop. Without reads this is instacall.

[Wolfram]

I did some stoving.

We have to call $130 to win $270, meaning we need 32.5% equity for a call to be neutral EV.

If we give him a reasonably tight range we still have a profitable call:


35,640 games 0.005 secs 7,128,000 games/sec

Board: Jh 4h 3c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 34.446% 33.12% 01.33% 11804 472.50 { QcQs }
Hand 1: 65.554% 64.23% 01.33% 22891 472.50 { JJ+, 44-33, AhKh, AhQh, AJs, AJo }

[orange]

no reads, i call.

[Nick Royale]

Call. We're not in great shape, but we're getting great odds.

[BGnight]

What if this was a regular 20/16, decent TAG, type?
(actually, this makes the call easier I think)

[Wolfram]

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What if this was a regular 20/16, decent TAG, type?
(actually, this makes the call easier I think)

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It really depends on his 3-bet calling range and his post flop tendencies. Does he (mistakenly) call 3-bets with small pp's for set-value? If so, then we lose a bit of equity. Does he call with 56s and try to outplay you post flop. If so, then we gain value.

But the big question is if he goes broke here with TPTK or not. That could possibly skew it from a call to a fold.

[deaders]

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I did some stoving.

We have to call $130 to win $270, meaning we need 32.5% equity for a call to be neutral EV.

If we give him a reasonably tight range we still have a profitable call:


35,640 games 0.005 secs 7,128,000 games/sec

Board: Jh 4h 3c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 34.446% 33.12% 01.33% 11804 472.50 { QcQs }
Hand 1: 65.554% 64.23% 01.33% 22891 472.50 { JJ+, 44-33, AhKh, AhQh, AJs, AJo }

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And that is a very conservative range. Im never folding QQ on this flop vs an unknown.

[BGnight]

O.k. so calling>folding here vs unknown. I should have known hardly anyone would push JJJ here, so I coulda narrowed his range more in my favor. I've been a little extra nitty starting out sessions since I've been running/playing like ass this week.