Dealing with moron neighbors

[StevieG]

psuasskicker,

It's natural to be centered on your own situation in the heat of the moment. But after time passes, most people are able to examine their own actions critically.

In contrast, the sense of entitlement you are projecting, and your inability to see through another viewpoint, grows worse as this thread gets longer.

Do you really think you share no responsibility for incidents involving children under the age of five being in the street?

Why are you talking about a speed bump when you should be working on getting sidewalks?

Why do you think this cul de sac is different from some other road? Is it a private road with some kind of easement?

[deadbody]

Okay, I tend to stay out of threads where the stupid and entitlement quotients are this high, but here goes.

I feel qualified to comment on this because
1. I have 2 kids 9 and 23 months
2. I grew up living in a cul-de-sac

OP, you are the dum. Just because other people let their kids play in the street, in other neighborhoods, has no bearing on wether or not your kids should be playing in the street. You say there is an issue with people running the stop sign. So you know there is a potential danger, and instead of reacting to said danger (like making your kids ride their bikes in the driveway, a perfectly reasonable option) you insist that you have the right to be in the street.

WHY? the law says that cars should yield the right of way to a pedestrian, if you are playing in the street you are not a pedestrian, you are an obstacle. If your kids are riding their bikes in the street are they obeying all traffic laws, going one way, staying to the edge of the street? I doubt it, so they are breaking the law just as much as the asstard who ran the stop sign.

You seem to think your kids are entitled to play in the street, just because they do it, and you are there to see it, they are not. The street is not a park, it's not a play land, its a street, for cars to drive on. Teaching a 4 year old that it is OK to play in the street just reinforces to them that this is a place to play, and increases the liklihood that they will make a bad decision to play in a busier road and get hurt.

Is the driver who ran the stop sign right, hell no, stupid kid should be more careful, but your kids should not be in a position where a person using the road for what it was intended (to drive a car on) could hurt your child.

You are both wrong, the mom sounds like a fruitcake, and I won't discuss her, but you are not in the right here, get your kids the hell out of the road until they are old enough to understand the degree of resonsibility that playing in the street requires (FYI my oldest just turned 9 and this is the first year he gets to ride his bike in the street, in a residential neighborhood, with very low traffic).

[guids]

get your kids out of the street, that is ridiculous, and bad parenting. Call the city to have them put up a children playing sign/etc the HS kids shouldnt be driving like idiots though. Ill cut my balls off before I live in the suburb.

[rjoefish]

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the OP's kid is doing something that is not only not a guaranteed legal right, but in many places, explicitly illegal (playing in the street).



Sorry NT, you have no idea what you're saying here. We have a right to be out there. Especially when you consider the kids are on bikes, which makes them legally operating a vehicle in the street which cars have to yield to, but that's beside the overall point that we are legally allowed to be playing out there.

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I love this, people claim bikes have the right to be out there and cars should yield to them. Guess what, bikes have to obey the same laws that cars do also. Its amusing to see people all serious about biking on the street with their helmet and mirrors and flashing lights as they roll through stop sign after stop light.

Also, you should look up the laws in your state/city. Here's one example of how you DON'T have the right to play in the street: http://www.co.henrico.va.us/police/c...nginstreet.pdf

Edit: Here's another one, saying its illegal: http://www.troymi.gov/TrafficEnginee...at%20play.html
There's also one about it illegal in Philly, but I'm sure you get the point.

[xxThe_Lebowskixx]

I want to have kids, but the whole neighborhood coalition and Cul De Sac thing makes me want to kill myself.

[xxThe_Lebowskixx]

I played basketball on a suburban street religiously from the age of 9 up. I remember there used to be this one old black guy who would accelerate whenever he saw us and we would all run out of the way. That was always the high point of our games, waiting for the crazy black guy to try to run us over.

[jtr]

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I want to have kids, but the whole neighborhood coalition and Cul De Sac thing makes me want to kill myself.

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Just bring them up your own way. Summers in Rangoon, meat helmets, that sort of thing.

[SmokeyRidesAgain]

Then when they are insolent put them in a burlap sack and beat them with reeds!

PS - Something to lighten the thread a little

[dmc]

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the OP's kid is doing something that is not only not a guaranteed legal right, but in many places, explicitly illegal (playing in the street).



Sorry NT, you have no idea what you're saying here. We have a right to be out there. Especially when you consider the kids are on bikes, which makes them legally operating a vehicle in the street which cars have to yield to, but that's beside the overall point that we are legally allowed to be playing out there.

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I love this, people claim bikes have the right to be out there and cars should yield to them. Guess what, bikes have to obey the same laws that cars do also. Its amusing to see people all serious about biking on the street with their helmet and mirrors and flashing lights as they roll through stop sign after stop light.

Also, you should look up the laws in your state/city. Here's one example of how you DON'T have the right to play in the street: http://www.co.henrico.va.us/police/c...nginstreet.pdf

Edit: Here's another one, saying its illegal: http://www.troymi.gov/TrafficEnginee...at%20play.html
There's also one about it illegal in Philly, but I'm sure you get the point.

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I like how OP conveniently glosses over this post as though it were never posted. It says playing in the streets is ILLEGAL (can you read? If you can't then see the picture below). OP is WRONG (end of story), pigheaded, and will probably get his kids killed if he continues to let them play in the street. He's too arrogant to admit defeat and revise his original view like NT! talked about revising his views with new evidence and information and whatnot.



PS: That meat helmet thing was gross. I wonder how long he must've shampooed to get that stink ass meat smell out of his hair.

PPS: And thanks for stretching the tables with that hugeass picture you posted, BPA234. I had to read all the posts using the normal pages instead of the view all function because I would have to scroll left and right to read posts in their entirety. Crop or resize it next time, you ass.

[CheckCheckFold]

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Okay, I tend to stay out of threads where the stupid and entitlement quotients are this high, but here goes.

I feel qualified to comment on this because
1. I have 2 kids 9 and 23 months
2. I grew up living in a cul-de-sac

OP, you are the dum. Just because other people let their kids play in the street, in other neighborhoods, has no bearing on wether or not your kids should be playing in the street. You say there is an issue with people running the stop sign. So you know there is a potential danger, and instead of reacting to said danger (like making your kids ride their bikes in the driveway, a perfectly reasonable option) you insist that you have the right to be in the street.

WHY? the law says that cars should yield the right of way to a pedestrian, if you are playing in the street you are not a pedestrian, you are an obstacle. If your kids are riding their bikes in the street are they obeying all traffic laws, going one way, staying to the edge of the street? I doubt it, so they are breaking the law just as much as the asstard who ran the stop sign.

You seem to think your kids are entitled to play in the street, just because they do it, and you are there to see it, they are not. The street is not a park, it's not a play land, its a street, for cars to drive on. Teaching a 4 year old that it is OK to play in the street just reinforces to them that this is a place to play, and increases the liklihood that they will make a bad decision to play in a busier road and get hurt.

Is the driver who ran the stop sign right, hell no, stupid kid should be more careful, but your kids should not be in a position where a person using the road for what it was intended (to drive a car on) could hurt your child.

You are both wrong, the mom sounds like a fruitcake, and I won't discuss her, but you are not in the right here, get your kids the hell out of the road until they are old enough to understand the degree of resonsibility that playing in the street requires (FYI my oldest just turned 9 and this is the first year he gets to ride his bike in the street, in a residential neighborhood, with very low traffic).

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