Yet another NYC raid

[JACKPOT321]

TT, I would love to get your perspective on why things will be changing, which you can do on private message if you are inclined.

Much Thanks.

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TT, I would love to get your perspective on why things will be changing, which you can do on private message if you are inclined.

Much Thanks.

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Nope, that can't happen. I discuss things in the B&M forum that I can, I wont go into further details via PM. The whole reason these rooms were shut down is because...

LOOSE LIPS SINK SHIPS.

There wont be any ships sinking because of me.

[TMTTR]

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Nope, that can't happen. I discuss things in the B&M forum that I can, I wont go into further details via PM. The whole reason these rooms were shut down is because...

LOOSE LIPS SINK SHIPS.

There wont be any ships sinking because of me.



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Very nice.

Discussion should end right here. If you want to discuss the law in New York and how it can (or can't) be changed, I would suggest raising the issue in the Poker Legislation forum. Plenty of legal wonks there.

If you know of a club -- good for you. Keep it off of 2+2 and other public forums.

Otherwise, consider poker in New York City dead. I do.

[JACKPOT321]

Understood TT, ear to the ground then.

nice graphic!

[KidFresh]

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Otherwise, consider poker in New York City dead. I do.

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Never!

[canvasbck]

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TT, I would love to get your perspective on why things will be changing, which you can do on private message if you are inclined.

Much Thanks.

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Nope, that can't happen. I discuss things in the B&M forum that I can, I wont go into further details via PM. The whole reason these rooms were shut down is because...

LOOSE LIPS SINK SHIPS.

There wont be any ships sinking because of me.



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TT is absolutely right. I'm not in NY, but EVERY room that I know of that has been shut down or raided by police in the Houston/Clear Lake area were a direct result of some idiot getting mad at the club (no credit line, ect) and reporting the room to the police. In many cases, the police knew about the rooms well ahead of time but didn't mess with them until they recieved written complaints.

[Karol]

TT, most of the clubs have business cards, some have had websites. What then is the big deal about saying a club name or giving details about them in the forums? Not being a jerk, genuinely curious.

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TT, most of the clubs have business cards, some have had websites. What then is the big deal about saying a club name or giving details about them in the forums? Not being a jerk, genuinely curious.

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Karol:

I wrote you a nice long message with lots of interesting facts and then I lost it. Ugh.

short answer, you and I know lots of the same people. Ask the club owners themselves how they feel about open discussion. They have enough headaches as it is trying to stay in business and protecting their players, they dont need to add to their headaches.

During WWII the saying was loose lips sink ships, the belife was that there were spys everywhere so the media kept quiet about the army's happenings. I think the saying actually started in the Navy, but the concept holds true to this day.

thats why our policy is if your the one taking the risk then feel free to hurt yourself (the club owners in any city, not just NYC), however if your just a patron its unfair to make decisions that affect other players, staff, and owners without their knowledge and permission.

For what its worth i don't think we will be seeing biz cards in the future, anything that opens up at this stage will have learned to keep everyone out except the trusted. Stay small, and underground.

[mrkilla]

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Everyone that I know would rather there names be kept as far off the Internet and Papers as possible. Even if it is public knowledge/ Running in here and saying "OMG XYZ Club just got Raided looks its public knowledge it was on channel 11 news" has no purpose. If you just say a club got busted people who play will know soon enough which it was. no need to keep spreading it around thats for sure.

Also this thread makes my head hurt a lot TT and you know why ,for those of us who know the owners and play or have played in these clubs for years know the deal, those who are still new to the clubs should have an idea whats going on and read more. Those who are just throwing there 2 cents in from out of town shoudl srsly STFU.

And bitter former club owners from NJ should just die all together.

[MRBAA]

The club scene is pretty dead in NY because the constant raids prevent larger, better places from taking hold for casual players. I constantly get invites to new clubs, but haven't played in one for years -- since the nice one with flat screens in the 20s got busted just a month or two after opening. As a recreational player, I want a friendly, reliable, safe place to play with multiple games and lots of players -- the old PlayStation was my favorite. Given the current enforcement climate, and the constant "outing" of new clubs, I don't foresee that happening. The appeal of going to a new club with two tables and a bunch of regulars, including a fair sprinkling of the usual slimebags, is not appealing.