More Bonds

[FireStorm]

I'm being told I'm retarded by one of a number of people who can't stipulate to body changes you can plainly see, and who agree with bizarre logic which draws comparisons between issues that have nothing to do with one another. Par for the course on 2p2.

[Thremp]

Steeroids don't make ur head git big. Duh.

[Jack of Arcades]

All RedBean is saying is that the evidence used by people to say Bonds did steroids like his power surge and his body changes is either overblown or outright made up, and that much of the reporting on this issue is biased against Bonds.

He's never said Bonds has never done steroids. He's never said Hank Aaron did steroids. He's saying the evidence is thin.

[THAY3R]

BUT DUDE JUST LOOK AT HIS HEAD AND TELL ME HE DIDNT DO STEROIDS

[THAY3R]

<insert evidence about steroids not increasing head size>


LOL I BET YOURE JUST BLACK IN LOVE WITH BARRY STUPID RACIST JUST LOOK AT HIS HEAD ITS DOUBLED LOLOLOL

[Thremp]

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BUT DUDE JUST LOOK AT HIS HEAD AND TELL ME HE DIDNT DO STEROIDS

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IT WAS IN ESPN!!(*!*&@^!(*@(!(*!@!

[FireStorm]

The evidence is certainly by no means "thin". The reason reporting is supposedly biased against Bonds is obv because he is the #1 name connected with steroid use and due to his previous media-unfriendly history. Do you really think the media should be focusing more on Hank Aaron's admitted greenie use? And if he's continually telling us that "evidence" is overblown or outright made up, would it be fair to say that his position is that Barry didn't take steroids? Seems pretty idiotic to say, yes, he took steroids, but all the evidence is a lie and doesn't prove it.

[Gregatron]

You refute arguments by addressing them directly, not making general statements about them that amount to little more than "ZOMFGLMAOROFLBBQ!!!!!~!~!@!!!!111111` THAT IS TEH SO WORNG!!!111"

I am by no means convinced that Bonds is clean, as I have stated above. But that is not the issue here.

[RedBean]

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The evidence is certainly by no means "thin".


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I'd say it's less than thin, considering the first two grand juries failed to indict citing "lack of evidence to go to trial", and the third grand jury has yet to produce even an indictment.

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The reason reporting is supposedly biased against Bonds is obv because he is the #1 name connected with steroid use and due to his previous media-unfriendly history.


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Now we're getting some where.

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Do you really think the media should be focusing more on Hank Aaron's admitted greenie use?


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Do you think they should never, ever mention it, while at the same time labeling him the "symbol of doing it clean"?

Because that is what SI did.


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would it be fair to say that his position is that Barry didn't take steroids?

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That would be unfair, considering it isn't my position.

My position is that I reserve judgement until I see what both sides have to say, you know, when all the evidence comes out, instead of basing my opinion on the speculation of a handful of biased sportswriters.

[Pudge714]

RedBean,
Are you using HR/AB or HR/PA?
Because if you used HR/AB, HR/PA would be even bigger in Bonds favor since he walked so much.