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Old 09-04-2007, 05:06 PM
warrantofice warrantofice is offline
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Anybody have anything to say about the Mirko Cro Cop -360
Cheick Kongo +280 line? Or will this just be an easy domination fight for Mirko? I don't know anything about Kongo, but then again I haven't looked.
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Old 09-04-2007, 05:10 PM
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Although I haven't thought too much about it Kongo's main strength is striking, which obviously is Cro-Cop's forte. Kongo showed horrible ground skills in his last fight at UFC 70, so he doesn't really have any discernible advantage. I think the line is about right and imagine I'll be leaving it alone.
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Old 09-04-2007, 05:27 PM
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.5u on sakara for me. Just think it's a tossup between thsoe two.
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Old 09-04-2007, 05:28 PM
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best line out there, Kuniyoshi hironaka vs THiago Alves. Hironaka @ anything over +110 is money imo...line is +196 on pinnacle and was +200 on bodog...
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Old 09-05-2007, 03:31 PM
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I think a small/meduim play on Kongo is right. Everybody expects CroCop to magically get his old form back, but there's a non-trivial chance he's just lost his drive/motivation/he sucks now.

Plus, Kongo is a fierce, good striker. The fight will be standing the whole time, and CroCop might have an advantage, but not a huge one. Kongo is a terrific, world class striker. I think there is solid value in for Kongo because he is a HUUUUUUGE dog according to this line. I'll try to find some links, but this fight will be essentially a kickboxing match, and Kongo is a very very good kickboxer.
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Old 09-05-2007, 03:45 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uw4Wi8YxqIk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLFPi...ed&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrpqT...ed&search=

Yeah i'm absolutely convinced Kongo is value all day easily. Unless CroCop suddenly wants to take people down, this is easily the best line on the card.
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Old 09-05-2007, 04:01 PM
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I heard CroCop was retiring after his contract expires.
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Old 09-05-2007, 04:07 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZkBqIXQNiY

http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance...wellisch_sport

http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/sea...ufc61tok1_sport

I really don't see either fighter trying to take this to the ground. And assuming this is just muay thai essentially, kongo looks very very good right now.
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Old 09-05-2007, 11:31 PM
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[ QUOTE ]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uw4Wi8YxqIk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLFPi...ed&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrpqT...ed&search=

Yeah i'm absolutely convinced Kongo is value all day easily. Unless CroCop suddenly wants to take people down, this is easily the best line on the card.

[/ QUOTE ]

I really wouldn't be shocked to see CroCop take Kongo down from the clinch and use some GnP. He's used GnP before when he's already had someone hurt, but given Kongo's crappy ground game he may look to work some of that in earlier. I'm not saying it's definitely going to happen, but I wouldn't be as confident as you are that this fight is staying on the feet.
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