Dan Harrington. Justified stiff?

[ZeeJustin]

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I figure this makes up for the occasional times they get the 15% out of me when they deserved 0% for the crappy service.

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Justice. Those good waiters are gonna pay for the bad service I got at that other restaurant last month. Mwuhuhahahaha.

[Jbrochu]

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I figure this makes up for the occasional times they get the 15% out of me when they deserved 0% for the crappy service.

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Justice. Those good waiters are gonna pay for the bad service I got at that other restaurant last month. Mwuhuhahahaha.

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Exactly. That's what you get when you presume anybody owes you anything.

[ZeeJustin]

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I figure this makes up for the occasional times they get the 15% out of me when they deserved 0% for the crappy service.

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Justice. Those good waiters are gonna pay for the bad service I got at that other restaurant last month. Mwuhuhahahaha.

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Exactly. That's what you get when you presume anybody owes you anything.

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Again, I think your aim is slightly off. The waiters have nothing to do with it.

[JennFox]

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Also, it's a little weird/absurd to me that poker players, who are so thoroughly spendthrift/profligate in all aspects of life, suddenly become prudent and cost-conscious at the end of a tournament and then begin penny-pinching.

For instance, I'm sure that some of you advocating not tipping in tournaments do tip bouncers at clubs--I see door-guys get $100 just to take customers to the table and much more if they're providing any kind of special treatment. Not only are these employees already grossly overpaid, but you'll never see them again or work with them in any context.


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that is the [censored] truth, shane. your genius posts like this make me miss your blog whole-heartedly.

[seth14]

3% of the prize pool? If first takes 1.6 mil the 3% of the total prize pool must be a quarter mil, am i missing something?

[Jbrochu]

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Again, I think your aim is slightly off. The waiters have nothing to do with it.

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Point noted and maybe I should reconsider how I go about it.

But remember they usually add the auto tip to make up for cheap bastards that don't tip for good service. So essentially they're doing the same thing to me.

[MikeMcClain]

How much staff fee would the house have to take out per table hour for this tournament before people would feel comfortable saying that a tip was unnecessary?

Using a very conservative estimate (ie, the number of tables at the beginning of each day multiplied by ten hours), the staff fee for this tournament was $173/hour.

[Statutory]

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I figure this makes up for the occasional times they get the 15% out of me when they deserved 0% for the crappy service.

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If you ever get terrible service and the gratuity is included simply call over a manager, tell them the service was terrible and to please remove the gratuity.

It will be removed 99% of the time. Probably 100% if you are willing to argue.

[RR]

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We (meaning people who win tourneys) should really start a trend of not-tipping.

Basically every year the juice gets higher and higher, yet people keep tipping the same. It's practically a scam.

If people just stop tipping then the casinos will be forced to directly give the dealers fair compensation, and poker players can just pay the juice and be done with it.

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Or the better dealers will leave the industry and you will be left with dealers that are happy making the lower amount. I mention this about every time this comes up; if you don't want to tip, don't tip; just don't complain when the tournament hosts aren't able to get good dealers.

[sqwisssssss]

pfffft, u dealers and staff should be lucky you get anything. you already rake. whenever i win, i try to skirt as little as possible. nobody tips me or helps me out when i go bust.

dealers should just shut theyre mouths. u guys already get plenty. just ake what the game gives and stfu.

now i'm starting to feel happy about electronic poker tables. no more dealers, no more tips and no more lame mistakes from lame dealers. most of u dealers dont even know how to keep yur deck hand down when u pitch the cards. terrible mechanics. shouldnt even have a job. go clean the toilets instead.