cash out curse on Stars

[Kodfish]

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realjaydubs,

please stop. you are wrong. I cash out all the time and I play for a living. This thread is absurd.

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I too cash out all the time and play for a living. The true lack of logic by realjaydub in this thread is amazing. Riddle me this. How does anyone make a living playing online poker if there is a such thing as a cashout curse?

I'll answer for you. Its not possible to both have a curse and make a living playing poker. If the sites rigged it is so that when you cashed out, you got pounded for say the amount your cashed out for, then it would be impossible to make a living.

I hope you aren't claiming that no one can make a living playing poker online. You can't be that misguided right? And if you can concede that point, then please explain how a cashout curse could exist and yet still allow players to make a living?

And when you can't answer that, please stop posting.

Kodfish

ps. When someone resorts to name calling in a discussion, as realjaydub as done repeatedly, its usually a sign that they have no logical footing in the argument and must resort to name calling.

[realjaydub]

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realjaydubs,

please stop. you are wrong. I cash out all the time and I play for a living. This thread is absurd.

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I too cash out all the time and play for a living. The true lack of logic by realjaydub in this thread is amazing. Riddle me this. How does anyone make a living playing online poker if there is a such thing as a cashout curse?

I'll answer for you. Its not possible to both have a curse and make a living playing poker. If the sites rigged it is so that when you cashed out, you got pounded for say the amount your cashed out for, then it would be impossible to make a living.

I hope you aren't claiming that no one can make a living playing poker online. You can't be that misguided right? And if you can concede that point, then please explain how a cashout curse could exist and yet still allow players to make a living?

And when you can't answer that, please stop posting.

Kodfish


ps. When someone resorts to name calling in a discussion, as realjaydub as done repeatedly, its usually a sign that they have no logical footing in the argument and must resort to name calling.

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Of course there a winners, big winners....I never disputed that. There are a ton of players who play for a living, that's fact. Winners will always be a source of income for the poker site. Remember, they are in this to make money, not give it away.

Of course I have a couple personal reasons why this is possible even with a skewed rng abliet not skewed 100% of the time.

a)the true winners have adapted to the skewed rng and have developed a system to know when a beat or bad streak is coming and play less. I too had developed a system in sng's that worked pretty well.

b)you were just lucky enough to get a boom account when you signed up. Face it, even if your leap years ahead of everyone else your edge is still not that significant.

C)I suck bawls, get lucky and go on a heater for 3 months then variance kicks in and takes my monies after cashing out, but not until I cashout. Repeat over 3 years.

d)They have an algorithm based on players who deposit, when they have proven to be a contionous depositer, why wouldn't they rig it against them, they will be a source of income for life.



p.s The mud flings both ways....If I don't have a leg to stand on neither does call the cops boy.

[Josem]

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Of course I have a couple personal reasons why this is possible even with a skewed rng abliet not skewed 100% of the time.

a)the true winners have adapted to the skewed rng and have developed a system to know when a beat or bad streak is coming and play less. I too had developed a system in sng's that worked pretty well.

b)you were just lucky enough to get a boom account when you signed up. Face it, even if your leap years ahead of everyone else your edge is still not that significant.

C)I suck bawls, get lucky and go on a heater for 3 months then variance kicks in and takes my monies after cashing out, but not until I cashout. Repeat over 3 years.

d)They have an algorithm based on players who deposit, when they have proven to be a contionous depositer, why wouldn't they rig it against them, they will be a source of income for life.

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QFS (quoted for stupidity)

[JDalla]

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realjaydubs,

please stop. you are wrong. I cash out all the time and I play for a living. This thread is absurd.

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I too cash out all the time and play for a living. The true lack of logic by realjaydub in this thread is amazing. Riddle me this. How does anyone make a living playing online poker if there is a such thing as a cashout curse?

I'll answer for you. Its not possible to both have a curse and make a living playing poker. If the sites rigged it is so that when you cashed out, you got pounded for say the amount your cashed out for, then it would be impossible to make a living.

I hope you aren't claiming that no one can make a living playing poker online. You can't be that misguided right? And if you can concede that point, then please explain how a cashout curse could exist and yet still allow players to make a living?

And when you can't answer that, please stop posting.

Kodfish


ps. When someone resorts to name calling in a discussion, as realjaydub as done repeatedly, its usually a sign that they have no logical footing in the argument and must resort to name calling.

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Of course there a winners, big winners....I never disputed that. There are a ton of players who play for a living, that's fact. Winners will always be a source of income for the poker site. Remember, they are in this to make money, not give it away.

Of course I have a couple personal reasons why this is possible even with a skewed rng abliet not skewed 100% of the time.

a)the true winners have adapted to the skewed rng and have developed a system to know when a beat or bad streak is coming and play less. I too had developed a system in sng's that worked pretty well.

b)you were just lucky enough to get a boom account when you signed up. Face it, even if your leap years ahead of everyone else your edge is still not that significant.

C)I suck bawls, get lucky and go on a heater for 3 months then variance kicks in and takes my monies after cashing out, but not until I cashout. Repeat over 3 years.

d)They have an algorithm based on players who deposit, when they have proven to be a contionous depositer, why wouldn't they rig it against them, they will be a source of income for life.



p.s The mud flings both ways....If I don't have a leg to stand on neither does call the cops boy.

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jesus.

a) I have never "developed a system" that beats the RNG. This is so absurd.

b) then why do good live players often become good online players and vice versa? There are no "boom" accounts.

c) you suck bawls, and thats why you think its rigged.

d) you are rediculous. stop being stubborn. admit you are wrong and work on your GAME instead of blaming "the cashout curse".

lets make a bet. I play on your account after you cash out for 1 week and I make money. BETS?

[MicroBob]

Anyone who really thinks this nonsense:
Why wouldn't you just make a new account where you might get a 'fresh start' and maybe get a "winning" account?

The people who lose and lose and don't understand that a good player on their account playing those exact same hands would have done better just blows me away.

[Josem]

I originally tried arguing earnestly with those who claim that online poker is rigged. I now believe that it is the wrong thing to do. I was arguing with the wrong target audience.

It is a lot like the arguments about 9/11 conspiracies in the politics forum. The people arguing in favour of a world-wide conspiracy to attack the World Trade Centre, like the people who claim that online poker is rigged, have such a radically different view on the world (as compared to the mainstream) that it is impossible to debate reasonably.

However, for the reasons I mentioned earlier, it is still important to respond to these claims - because regardless of how silly, unsubstantiated and illogical it is to claim that online poker is rigged, there will always be people who believe it.


It's not possible to convince the fringe dwellers who are absolutely convinced that online poker is rigged. It's not possible to change the minds of those people who believe the 9/11 attacks was a neo-conservative conspiracy. All that rational people can do is to hope to make an impression on the undecided people in the middle.

[Bobo Fett]

Correct. Well, at least as far as convincing the "poker is rigged" crowd goes. I'll have to take your word for the rest; the little I see of politics in ATF is enough for me. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[ChipFerFree]

I guess I don't see why anyone needs to be convinced one way or the other really. Believe what you want and vote with your feet...