$2200 HU turbo SNG full tilt

[PrimordialAA]

lol... can we get some other higher limit players to comment on this? Camel if your ever around, BCM, cwar, whoever else reads this forum and has enough experience at higher stakes. Also, to dentist... the point is, that on the flop you are going to get a ton of action from a loose player with hands that you are beating... i.e. forcing him to draw unprofitably... +EV for you, and although he did fire the turn again, sure, you made some extra chips out of it, but it seems like your no longer protecting your hand against draws here, it might as well be a total bluff since ONE and only ONE of all the possible calling hands he has you are beating, I feel that you should take a less conservative line here when your obviously getting the best of a loose player, and let him put his money in on a range you are obviously way ahead of...

[ukdentisto32]

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lol... can we get some other higher limit players to comment on this? Camel if your ever around, BCM, cwar, whoever else reads this forum and has enough experience at higher stakes. Also, to dentist... the point is, that on the flop you are going to get a ton of action from a loose player with hands that you are beating... i.e. forcing him to draw unprofitably... +EV for you, and although he did fire the turn again, sure, you made some extra chips out of it, but it seems like your no longer protecting your hand against draws here, it might as well be a total bluff since ONE and only ONE of all the possible calling hands he has you are beating, I feel that you should take a less conservative line here when your obviously getting the best of a loose player, and let him put his money in on a range you are obviously way ahead of...

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i completely understand what u are saying, and i'm not saying its wrong either, i know raising here is perfectly fine, i am just justifying taking a line like the one i took..and he is loose aggressive, but not retarded, i think a bluff or a semi-bluff from him are much more likely here and im happy to call the flop and make a decision on the turn, no not everytime, but i dont see how my play is so -EV

[PrimordialAA]

haha, well were you asking if it was -EV or if it was maximum EV, I understand its not WRONG to do what you did, and you'll make chips because of his tendencies to bluff... but you allow him to play it perfectly, he has no option but to fold his weaker hand, or call you with a better one, plain and simple, so I am saying you did NOT get maximum EV out of this hand, if all you wanted was confirmation that it wasnt -EV, then yes... you are correct [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[ukdentisto32]

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haha, well were you asking if it was -EV or if it was maximum EV, I understand its not WRONG to do what you did, and you'll make chips because of his tendencies to bluff... but you allow him to play it perfectly, he has no option but to fold his weaker hand, or call you with a better one, plain and simple, so I am saying you did NOT get maximum EV out of this hand, if all you wanted was confirmation that it wasnt -EV, then yes... you are correct [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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it depends on his range to decide on whether i got maximum EV out of this hand..not on instantly assuming that he is on a draw

[ukdentisto32]

my hand vs his range regardless of what i do is +EV, but the decision i make on the flop and turn can change that

[ukdentisto32]

i slowplayed the flop to greatly increase my equity vs a combo draw that would be shoving the flop, when the turn misses, i can now get it all in vs many very strong drawing hands that he calls, as u can see by ryans equity calculations vs his range i am only 57-43 on the flop, i wanted to peel a turn to greatly increase that because i feel my edge is greater than that

[ukdentisto32]

how if i raise the flop, he is not shoving anything that is worse than 60-40, and im not gonna take that the second hand of a heads up vs. a very weak opponent