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There are worse offsuit hands than 97o. I actually was convinced I had a bug in my evaluation program because it claimed certain hands were winning BBJs, for awhile. [/ QUOTE ] Party poker requires 1. Both cards in the holding to be used 2. The losing hand to be 4 8's and an ace or worse. This gives us the following off suit possibilities: A8o Pocket pair (clearly stronger than A8o) 9x Now, A8o is stronger than 9K-92o, so we can concentrate on the 9x case. The board must have three 9's to make the hand. In order to have both cards in the holding used, the x must be at least as high as any of the non-nine cards on the board (or 'cards speak' will prevent the use of both hole cards). Finally, to make a hand that beats four nines, the opponent must have a higher 4-of a kind (which means the board has to have cards higher than 9), or a straight flush (which means the board must have, at minimum, a 6 in addition to the nines). That means that 96o or 97o (depending on how the 6 is chosen if there is an option) is the minimum holding that can produce 4 9's and a bad beat. |
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If 8888A is the rules at Party, rufus is correct.
At Absolute, 8888 with a playing kicker is good enough, and in the event of a tie between the board and your hand, your kicker players -- so, by rufus's same argument, 85o, with a board of 88854 and an opponent holding 76s, works. |
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I somewhere read that you need to use both hole cards to make your 5card qualifying bad beat hand. So following that the "worst" pf hand would indeed be 32s. |
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