Stars 109 FO, Level 2 Weird Spot

[Dawg24]

as played I guess we have to be scared of 2 pair, MAYBE a set? you are only risking about half your stack with what I think is good more than 50% of the time...but I still cant come up with a hand for the villan to just call out of the bb but has us beat...88,99, 89? 10 J could be likely and is hoping you fold but if not they have outs...you have not shown a lot of stregnth this hand...BUT have shown AK to be pretty likely...

cliff notes...I reluctantly call or shove...

[Mench]

for those in the shove and pray camp what hand range do you put villain on?

[shaundeeb]

he puts you on AK due to PF and flop line, he is raising the turn thus can beat AK.

Since you have AK you can FOLD.

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he puts you on AK due to PF and flop line, he is raising the turn thus can beat AK.

Since you have AK you can FOLD.

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i agree!

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he puts you on AK due to PF and flop line, he is raising the turn thus can beat AK.

Since you have AK you can FOLD.

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i agree!

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me too, although i'm curious as to what kind of hand villain has to make such an over-raise.

[ZJ123]

edit: i thought u had nut flush draw for some reason....hmm it gets closer then, not sure what i do..

[Mench]

does anyone here not bet this turn? I also think my bet size should have been more in the 280-340 range.

[Dawg24]

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does anyone here not bet this turn? I also think my bet size should have been more in the 280-340 range.

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everyone bets this turn...no one has shown even a little stregnth and you have TPTK...its after the reraise that is the question...

[Dawg24]

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he puts you on AK due to PF and flop line, he is raising the turn thus can beat AK.

Since you have AK you can FOLD.

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This is what I was trying to say...but somehow that led me to still call...is that crazy (stupid?)...I also look at the result IF I lose I still have my starting stack at 15-30...is this also a bad way to look at things...???

[shaundeeb]

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he puts you on AK due to PF and flop line, he is raising the turn thus can beat AK.

Since you have AK you can FOLD.

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This is what I was trying to say...but somehow that led me to still call...is that crazy (stupid?)...I also look at the result IF I lose I still have my starting stack at 15-30...is this also a bad way to look at things...???

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very bad to make -ev moves cuz if the few times you are right and you have best hand that you are happy. Getting an early double is way more valuable then most people realize. Giving that right back is much more painful then most people realize.