Is a flop bet mandated here?

[OziBattler]

Eegah, you make a good point! yeah, a 5 outer should call here....I still kinda like giving a 6 or 4 with a crappy kicker a chance to fold

so how many outs are we giving our hero here?

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The flop is rather coordinated, and doesn't give you a ton of promising outs. We've gotta discount our TP outs for the flush and reverse domination, our backdoor Flush is only to the 3rd nut flush, and with a one card flush and 4 others in this is not very strong. Our Back Door Straight draw is a two gapper and is worth very little.

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nh sir. the above is very well put and presents a very good case for not betting the flop. I think I just flip flopped [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]