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Old 08-08-2007, 06:52 PM
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For almost the exact same reasons poker is beatable.


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Tilt. Not even close.
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Old 08-09-2007, 10:20 PM
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For almost the exact same reasons poker is beatable.


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Tilt. Not even close.

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I thought about this after I wrote it, and thought that it could be confusing. I meant that in that not all games are beatable to all players. But in fast there are some poker players that are +EV in all games and some that are -EV in all games. VP for an expert (who just has to follow a strategy albeit complicated at times) is +EV or -EV depending on the situations of the games. Perhaps I should have added a disclaimer similar to the average player or just not used such a stretched example.

Basically some machines exist that are +EV, but the vast majority you just toss in a slot club promo or something else and they move into a good hourly.
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Old 08-09-2007, 11:36 PM
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I thought about this after I wrote it ...

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Slots and video gaming are all zero memory strategies. Other than memorizing what the optimal play is in games where you have a decision to make -- the strategy is not dependent on any other factors. So, unlike poker -- it's a single player game. There is no raising, bluffing, or any other strategic signals that can be exploited. VP is like playing pure basic strategy at BJ.
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Old 08-10-2007, 04:30 AM
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I thought about this after I wrote it ...

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Slots and video gaming are all zero memory strategies. Other than memorizing what the optimal play is in games where you have a decision to make -- the strategy is not dependent on any other factors. So, unlike poker -- it's a single player game. There is no raising, bluffing, or any other strategic signals that can be exploited. VP is like playing pure basic strategy at BJ.

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Yeah, there were much better examples to be made. Like BJ and most other gambling games. Not all are created equal, which is what I was trying to get across. There are games no one can beat and games that just about anyone willing to pretend to care can beat.
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