Am I an angle-shooting douchebag?

[Mcbrag]

First off, it seems you have run into a glitch in their software, probably due to their having an incompetent/non poker experienced programmer and/or consultant who worked on their original programming. In the computer programming world it takes a while to get things like this fixed.

As you know, (and I'm still amazed at how many "online pros" don't) if you were in a live card room this would never have happened. The player attempting to rathole would be forced to sit out a certain amount of time before being allowed to reenter the game. I'm sure someone attempted this in the first card rooms in early America claiming it wasn't "against the rules", but these players soon were labeled cheaters and were shot by the other players. The card room managers at the time were getting tired of losing customers that way, so they were able to quickly implement the rules as they stand in most card rooms today.

Unfortunately, times have changed, and you are not able to shoot this scumbag angle shooter. (At least, it's not practical, what with travel, cleanup of DNA evidence, disposal of body, etc.). It looks as if you are just going to have to accept that your opponent was not cheating per se, but was unethical.

You have done the right thing by reporting the angle shooting glitch to the site and now you should let them know you will be taking your business elsewhere until the glitch is fixed and that they should contact you directly when it is because you are not going to check back. Much like the live card rooms of old, management will not really have an incentive to get this fixed until they start losing business.

[qpw]

Let's face it, the fundamental problem here is that the person the OP is objecting to so strongly simply did something that prevented him making the same mistake that OP did.

All he did was decide to put his winnings out of temptation's way.

If he had the same lack of self control that OP obviously did, a very sensible move.

In no way could he control which table he was placed on. It was just luck of the draw. It's quite clear that the site does allow him to do what he did otherwise he would not have been able to do it.

What would you have the site do?

Impose some waiting period before someone who has left a table can sit down anywhere?

How long should that period be?

Like the poster who yesterday or the day before was holding a site responsible for his loss because they didn't remove a cashout from his account, the OP is trying to hold somone else responsible for something that is absolutely and completely his own problem: a chronic lack of self control that makes then the wrong sort of person to be involved with gambling unless they want to risk ruining their lives.

[luckyjimm]

Thanks for your post, McBrag

qpw, it wasn't luck of the draw what table he was placed at. It was 7.30am and there was only one table running; and that was three-handed, two-handed when he left. So he knew exactly what he was doing!

It is very easy to make sure a player can't rejoin a table with less money. All other sites (except Party) seem to enforce this rule without problem.

On the whole, though, I'm not saying I disagree with you. It's my fault having - as they say in AA - "no mental defence."

[luckyjimm]

But I do think it is legitimate to find fault, as a consumer, with a site that is so incompetent that they can't process withdrawals and remove the money from players' accounts within 6, 12, 18 hours of the withdrawal. I will vote as a consumer and move to a site with a decent cashout system. If a skin is so small they can't run an efficient cashout system, it shouldn't exist - iPoker should take action since it reflects badly on the network as a whole.

[qpw]

Seriously, Jim, I'm not just saying this to be nasty or score points.

You must get a handle on the control thing. I just realised that the cashout thing was you as well.

From your posts it looks as if you are quite capable of winning money when you are in control but quite unable to stop yourself throwing it away under certain adverse conditions.

If you can work out a technique that you can use to force yourself to stop for long enough to come off tilt, you're going to be able to save youself a heap of money both short and long term.

That should be your absolute, major, priority at the moment.

[SmokeyRidesAgain]

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All he did was decide to put his winnings out of temptation's way.

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You're levelling right?

[qpw]

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You're levelling right?

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What do you mean?

[luckyjimm]

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From your posts it looks as if you are quite capable of winning money when you are in control but quite unable to stop yourself throwing it away under certain adverse conditions.

If you can work out a technique that you can use to force yourself to stop for long enough to come off tilt, you're going to be able to save youself a heap of money both short and long term.

That should be your absolute, major, priority at the moment.

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Yes, this is absolutely right. I put in many hours between Saturday and Tuesday morning, and I recognised in myself periodic periods of tilt. I took steps to address it. For example if I played two tables at once, I was much more likely to tilt. I could feel myself starting to shake, and I would slag people off in chat. So I tore myself away from the computer and waited till I regained my composure before I played again.

Sadly Tuesday morning was one long tilt session. I'd hardly woken up when I sat at the table. It was short handed which is much more tilt-inducing. I hadn't had my morning cup of tea, cigarette or breakfast, hadn't showered, hadn't got dressed. I was in no state to play. And I was conscious I didn't have long before I had to go to work so I played without patience or control. And since I was playing at $5/$10, for which I had 4.5 buyins, one tilting session could be - and was - fatal. If I'd donked off a few buy-ins at $1/$2 it wouldn't have mattered.

I need to recognise in myself the effect gambling has on me and attempt to check myself, to take a step back and say "What am I doing at this table? Am I playing well? Would I be better off going doing something else, and coming back in a few hours when I'm in a better frame of mind and the games are better?" It has to be possible for me to do this.

By the way I just found out I earned so many player points that the affiliate I signed up with is sending me $250... so I'll have to reopen my CDPoker account!!! I can use that for five half buy-ins at $0.50/$1 or three $80 buy-ins for $1/$2 and see how I get on.

Onwards and upwards!

[mason55]

wow you seriously sound like you have a gambling problem

[augie_]

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$4600 fwiw

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Wow. That's a lot. Why didn't you stop playing?

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I stopped at 2.30am on Monday night when I'd got up to this amount, and went to sleep. But stupidly when I woke up at 7.30am I started playing again - the laptop is by my bed and was on standby, so it was too easy. I lost a $2000 pot straight away, won a $2000 pot minutes later but was still down about $500, and was in full-blown monkey tilt "I have to keep playing, I have to get it back!" mode. Worse, I was meant to be getting ready and leaving for work. If I'd at least accepted the tilt loss and gone to work I'd still have had $2600 or so in the account by 8.30am and I could have won it back that evening or at over time. I just was too caught up in the game, and should have forced myself away. Obviously I should have done so. Or, at least, I should have gone back down to $1/$2. I just had gambling fever. Madness.

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hey, maybe this will make you feel better, you probably only have to go to work for like 5 more months before you make back what you lost playing pot limit omaha!