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[ QUOTE ] So this has deteriotated into a discussion of limping KK UTG early in a sng .... wow I am guessing most of you in the heated argument have no clue as to what is important and what isn't in sngs [/ QUOTE ] wow, what a mighty high horse...lol [/ QUOTE ] hint - get on the horse. I have little interesting S&Gs (even though I have the book) but its plain to see that he is right. The conversation is off track. |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] So this has deteriotated into a discussion of limping KK UTG early in a sng .... wow I am guessing most of you in the heated argument have no clue as to what is important and what isn't in sngs [/ QUOTE ] wow, what a mighty high horse...lol [/ QUOTE ] hint - get on the horse. I have little interesting S&Gs (even though I have the book) but its plain to see that he is right. The conversation is off track. [/ QUOTE ] English only at the table. |
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Hi Guys,
Both limping or raising KK/AA early in an SNG are both reasonable options. The key point is that ideally you want to get all your chips in the center pre-flop, but when you cannot accomplish this, it is important not to get wedded to your hand if you get multi-way action and do not improve. If the pot is small, you have multiple opponents, and you don't hit a set, you cannot hesitate to lay down an overpair in the face of substantial action. Particularly if deep-stacked post-flop poker is not a strong point, you should just let the hand go in these circumstances. While the limp/raise debate is certainly a very interesting topic worth future debate, I think more detailed discussion might be better suited for an STTF thread. Best Regards, Collin |
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While the limp/raise debate is certainly a very interesting topic worth future debate, I think more detailed discussion might be better suited for an STTF thread. [/ QUOTE ] Already a discussion on this hand in sttf if anybody wants to continue this cat fight... [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] |
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Apologies for my part in the KK discussion- I am interested in hearing what people have to say about this book and that's why I keep coming back to this thread- I just have a compulsive need to respond sometimes [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Ok, let's change the subject.
Hand 1-5 is totally wrong, start to finish. Other than that, I like the book a lot so far ... |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] So this has deteriotated into a discussion of limping KK UTG early in a sng .... wow I am guessing most of you in the heated argument have no clue as to what is important and what isn't in sngs [/ QUOTE ] wow, what a mighty high horse...lol [/ QUOTE ] hint - get on the horse. I have little interesting S&Gs (even though I have the book) but its plain to see that he is right. The conversation is off track. [/ QUOTE ] huh? lol But point taken, probably too much discussion in a review thread. Halfway through the book and I really like it. For a 2+2 book, this has gotten some bad vibes sent out by the STTF crowd before it was even printed. At least read the book first. Looks like a great book CM. |
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[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] So this has deteriotated into a discussion of limping KK UTG early in a sng .... wow I am guessing most of you in the heated argument have no clue as to what is important and what isn't in sngs [/ QUOTE ] wow, what a mighty high horse...lol [/ QUOTE ] hint - get on the horse. I have little interesting S&Gs (even though I have the book) but its plain to see that he is right. The conversation is off track. [/ QUOTE ] huh? lol But point taken, probably too much discussion in a review thread. Halfway through the book and I really like it. For a 2+2 book, this has gotten some bad vibes sent out by the STTF crowd before it was even printed. [/ QUOTE ] They're sulking because they weren't consulted. Given the level of analysis most of the rated players indulge in, I'm not very surprised. |
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They're sulking because they weren't consulted. Given the level of analysis most of the rated players indulge in, I'm not very surprised. [/ QUOTE ] Lol. If you think that the top sng players weren't consulted because of the strategy advice in STTF, then you are very disillusioned. |
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Also, the reason why STTF likes to see buy-in in the subject is because the first line of most post is:
"No reads." So, the buy in is important in making assumptions on how the typical opponent is going to be playing. However, if Collin is giving reads in his examples, I don't see how leaving out buy-ins in his examples could detract from the quality of the book. |
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