Is this a string bet?

[Dranoel]

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Dealer calls a string bet. Legit or not?

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Nope. <font color="red">Dealers can't call string bets.</font> Only players in the hand.

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<font color="red">Wrong.</font>



Poker Tournament Directors Association:

<font color="blue">Rule #39:String Raises. Dealers will be responsible for calling string raises.</font>

TDA Web Site

And...

According to Robert's Rules of Poker:

String raises are not allowed. <font color="blue">The dealer should enforce obvious infractions to this string-raise law without being asked.</font> To protect your right to raise, you should either declare your intention verbally or place the proper amount of chips into the pot. Putting a full bet plus a half-bet or more into the pot is considered to be the same as announcing a raise, and the raise must be completed. (This does not apply in the use of a single chip of greater value.)

Robert's Rules of Poker


And, yes it will vary from location to location- but most dealers (that I've sat at tables with) call string bets. The reason- if a player is forced to call a string bet it can convey weakness in your hand. If your hand is strong you want as much money in the pot.

Hope this helps.

[RR]

Dealers not calling string bets is very standard in the places that spread bigger games. The TDA change this spring was very surprising but it has nothing to do with cash games. Robert thinks it should be "no string bets allowed," but this is one of the few spots he is out of step with the actual rules.

[Dranoel]

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The TDA change this spring was very surprising but it has nothing to do with cash games.

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I referenced the TDA rule to show that, across the board- in both Cash &amp; Tourney games, Dealers are suppose to call string bets.

Which, I think is fair. But then again- my opinion rarely matters. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[RR]

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The TDA change this spring was very surprising but it has nothing to do with cash games.

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I referenced the TDA rule to show that, across the board- in both Cash &amp; Tourney games, Dealers are suppose to call string bets.

Which, I think is fair. But then again- my opinion rarely matters. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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I don't have a strong opinion either way, but I would say not calling string bets is the more common rule (it is that way in all the card barns).

They do call string bets in out of the way places like Las Vegas [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
This might be a good place to mention that I hear all the time "they do it that way in Vegas." I would say at least 80% of the people working in poker in Vegas are clueless.

edit to add: As you go up in limits the argument for the dealer staying out of it goes up. At the higher limits it is much more likely for the players to understand what is or isn't a string bet than the dealers.

[DesertCat]

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And, yes it will vary from location to location- but most dealers (that I've sat at tables with) call string bets. The reason- if a player is forced to call a string bet it can convey weakness in your hand. If your hand is strong you want as much money in the pot.


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The dealer doesn't know how strong your hand is. If I have quads on the river, and my opponent makes a very large bet that's clearly a string bet, I don't want the dealer to say anything. This has happened before and I was very unhappy. It's not protecting me to interfere in my hand.

[lmcjaho]

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The dealer doesn't know how strong your hand is. If I have quads on the river, and my opponent makes a very large bet that's clearly a string bet, I don't want the dealer to say anything. This has happened before and I was very unhappy. It's not protecting me to interfere in my hand.

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True, but by the same token if you are bluffing the turn and the dealer doesn't call it you don't want to make a stink yourself and reveal how weak you are if you wanted to throw another bluff out on the river, so having the dealer enforce the rules would be helpful in this case no?

[pfapfap]

Letting the players call it removes the dealer from having too much influence on the game. I can certainly imagine the headache at my room if I made judgment calls, considering that technically a lot of string betting happens every hand. I'm there to keep the game going smoothly for the players. Usually it's minor and not any sort of angle-shoot (whereas calling a string bet often is), and it's a lot easier to let the game move along smoothly. If a player in the hand has issue with it, s/he says something, and I deal with it.

[DesertCat]

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True, but by the same token if you are bluffing the turn and the dealer doesn't call it you don't want to make a stink yourself and reveal how weak you are if you wanted to throw another bluff out on the river, so having the dealer enforce the rules would be helpful in this case no?

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Not sure what you are saying. If I'm bluffing the turn I'm betting. And if I don't want to be called on a string bet I won't string bet.

[rchandra]

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True, but by the same token if you are bluffing the turn and the dealer doesn't call it you don't want to make a stink yourself and reveal how weak you are if you wanted to throw another bluff out on the river, so having the dealer enforce the rules would be helpful in this case no?

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Not sure what you are saying. If I'm bluffing the turn I'm betting. And if I don't want to be called on a string bet I won't string bet.

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What he's saying is that you bet as a bluff, and your opponent string raises. If you call him on it it's an indication that you are weak, which will interfere with your ability to make a follow-up bluff on the river. If you don't you have to deal with this raise now, which you'd rather not. So it's to your advantage for a neutral party to call it.