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Old 07-29-2007, 12:22 PM
pfapfap pfapfap is offline
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Default Re: you forgot to make a side pot? ok. you dropped the deck too? >:|

Agree the stub should be reshuffled, but this is a rarely-used rule unlikely to be consistent from room to room or floor to floor.

This is one reason why we're trained to put the cut card on top of the stub. Considering how darned repetitious dealing is, it's a common enough error to think a hand is over when it's not. Usually I notice immediately, but if my habit were to wash the stub immediately, it'd be a lot more difficult to protect myself. Tho' I also understand why some rooms prefer dealers specifically don't do it this way.
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Old 07-29-2007, 06:44 PM
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Default Re: you forgot to make a side pot? ok. you dropped the deck too? >:|

I think the ruling is incorrect. Stub and muck should be shuffled, burn and bring river card. Then later dealer should be counseled for mucking the stub. We don't require dealers to put cut card on top of the stub, but we require them to keep it separated from the muck when it is released.
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Old 07-30-2007, 01:03 AM
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Default Re: you forgot to make a side pot? ok. you dropped the deck too? >:|

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I think the ruling is incorrect. Stub and muck should be shuffled, burn and bring river card. Then later dealer should be counseled for mucking the stub. We don't require dealers to put cut card on top of the stub, but we require them to keep it separated from the muck when it is released.

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I would not have a dealer shuffle KNOWN muck cards into the stub.
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Old 07-30-2007, 05:36 PM
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Default Re: you forgot to make a side pot? ok. you dropped the deck too? >:|

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I think the ruling is incorrect. Stub and muck should be shuffled, burn and bring river card. Then later dealer should be counseled for mucking the stub. We don't require dealers to put cut card on top of the stub, but we require them to keep it separated from the muck when it is released.

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I would not have a dealer shuffle KNOWN muck cards into the stub.

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What difference would it make? They're all unknown to the players left in the hand.
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Old 07-30-2007, 05:45 PM
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Default Re: you forgot to make a side pot? ok. you dropped the deck too? >:|

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I think the ruling is incorrect. Stub and muck should be shuffled, burn and bring river card. Then later dealer should be counseled for mucking the stub. We don't require dealers to put cut card on top of the stub, but we require them to keep it separated from the muck when it is released.

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I would not have a dealer shuffle KNOWN muck cards into the stub.

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There were no known muck cards -- from OP

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but it certainly isn't clear what is what.

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At this point it is not known what was in the muck and what was in the stub.
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