25NL: Was this the worst play or best bluff ever?

[qdmcg]

the point of making bets like this preflop is to disguise your hand range. its unnecessary at nl25 because there are so many people who will pay you off with mid pair no kicker.

having said that, there are players at every limit that will fold to your turn shove. you need to know something about your opponent (is he a nit, is he a calling station, etc.) before you blindly go making huge bluffs. obviously there are more calling stations at lower levels and its unfortunate that you got looked up by a hand like that on this board but you need to look past the results of this hand to realize why its not a good play

[DaycareInferno]

maybe my math is wrong, but there's like $21 in the pot on the turn, and you're bluffing your last $14 into it. its not like you'd have to have some sort of huge hand to do that at this point.

[corsakh]

Your thinking is correct, but its not like someone who cold called preflop twice and then called your flop bet is going to fold turn.

[nanamar05]

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maybe my math is wrong, but there's like $21 in the pot on the turn, and you're bluffing your last $14 into it. its not like you'd have to have some sort of huge hand to do that at this point.

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You are a donkey. It wasn't the the turn shove, it was how I set up the bluff pre-flop. I knew he was weak, and tried to push him of his pocket 44s.

You would think pocket 44s would be an insta fold in that situation, given how the hand was played preflop and flop.

[corsakh]

I take my statement back. OP is obviously a genious.

[DaycareInferno]

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maybe my math is wrong, but there's like $21 in the pot on the turn, and you're bluffing your last $14 into it. its not like you'd have to have some sort of huge hand to do that at this point.

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You are a donkey. It wasn't the the turn shove, it was how I set up the bluff pre-flop. I knew he was weak, and tried to push him of his pocket 44s.

You would think pocket 44s would be an insta fold in that situation, given how the hand was played preflop and flop.

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um, yeah, ok. all that was over on the turn. up to that point his line was call/call/call. hrm. who would have guessed that he would have called again at 2.5:1

you can criticize people all you want for making stupid calls, but at the end of the day you should know enough by now to expect it and stop making terrible bluffs into fish.

[LG87]

if i had to chose between best bluff or worst play i'd go for worst play

[tubasteve]

pf is a call, not a 3-bet. you want to play this in a multiway pot. anyway, i don't mind the bluff if the stakes were higher, because you are repping AK pretty hard. i just wouldnt expect it to work much here at NL25 'cause no one is thinking on that level.

[DaycareInferno]

nomatter what the stakes are, its not like it should have been that hard to detect a station of this magnitude before deciding that he's the guy to try a triple barrel stack bluff with a 9 high on. i guess that's the subtle genius. its the last thing they'll expect!

[qdmcg]

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maybe my math is wrong, but there's like $21 in the pot on the turn, and you're bluffing your last $14 into it. its not like you'd have to have some sort of huge hand to do that at this point.

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You are a donkey. It wasn't the the turn shove, it was how I set up the bluff pre-flop. I knew he was weak, and tried to push him of his pocket 44s.

You would think pocket 44s would be an insta fold in that situation, given how the hand was played preflop and flop.

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okay so actually you are the donkey. the guy made a very good point. he called you on the flop and your turn bet is like 2/3 of the pot. there is a very good chance you're getting called here.

also, u can't [censored] sense weakness in someone preflop when they make a minraise. you can't read souls online.

rarely is it a good play to just "decide to bluff" preflop