3-bet flop w/ draw now what? NL400

[Praetor]

shove

[Jojje_2k]

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shove

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Is flop play fine?

[David1234]

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shove

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Is flop play fine?

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yeah 3betting is standard

[Praetor]

yes. i also like size, your turn shove will still have *some* FE

[Jojje_2k]

How do we play if we have 200xBB?

[David1234]

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yes. i also like size, your turn shove will still have *some* FE

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not really sure I agree with this, maybe just pushing flop is better

[Acemanhattan]

What I dont see happening ALOT is that the villan calls w/ the action on that flop, and then folds getting 3 to 1 on his money, which takes away alot of the needed fold equity that makes this type of hand so valuable. That being said, I think that there is enough money in the pot, that if you were to shove the turn, youre getting close to the right price vs most of his range So as played I think a shove is rougly a breakeven play. I think the best play is to shove the flop, get it in when you prob have 45 percent equity. Force him to make a tough call, bad fold, or flat out bad call with something like a worse flush draw. If this guy was a known nit, I would say that calling the flop raise and then check folding when you miss the turn is prob the best decision.

[Jojje_2k]

Then we have to push hands like AA/KK/sets too?

Or can we wait pushing those hands until he knows we push draws?