Any two can win!

[mosch]

Raising is the most fun action in limit hold'em, but it's not always right.

This is one of those cases.

Everybody is getting 14:1 or better on their calls. So people with a pair are going to call and hope for two. People with a reasonably high heart are also going to call, and see what happens on the river.

Then on the river, if you bet into these people, somebody will call you because it's a $500 pot, and they're curious.

I would expect a counter-argument that you're cleaning your outs, but hearts are always good, jacks are almost certainly good, and aces aren't going away anyway. Not at 14:1.

If your semi-bluff worked, congratulations, those are good results. But I don't like the play at all.

[KitCloudkicker]

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Raising is the most fun action in limit hold'em, but it's not always right.

This is one of those cases.

Everybody is getting 14:1 or better on their calls. So people with a pair are going to call and hope for two. People with a reasonably high heart are also going to call, and see what happens on the river.

Then on the river, if you bet into these people, somebody will call you because it's a $500 pot, and they're curious.

I would expect a counter-argument that you're cleaning your outs, but hearts are always good, jacks are almost certainly good, and aces aren't going away anyway. Not at 14:1.

If your semi-bluff worked, congratulations, those are good results. But I don't like the play at all.

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hmmm...if your villains are 2 of the tighter 2+2ers who are follow most of the strategy given in these forums (2+2 is b/f mania, me included, fwiw) then they arent calling both the turn and river bets without a set, flush, or two pair.

i agree that against most opponents, this play isnt going to work.

[tessarji]

I think this raise is great. Your draw is relatively huge and the flush/straight card on the turn is about as good a scare card as you could hope for.

If one of your opponents folds the turn, you will of course have to bet any river. I don't like a C/C under any circumstances because you will vomit if UTG shows AxKh or AxQh.

Obviously don't do this play if you have been caught semi-bluffing before.

[n.s.]

If UTG is the type of player that can make big laydowns, then I like this raise. Even if he doesn't fold very often, you've got enough equity that your raise really doesn't cost very much and the protected pot idea ought to at least keep him from 3-betting you.