PPA should disassociate itself from scandal ridden CEO Poker tour

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Why should the CEO poker tour be allowed to continue? They stole money from their participants, denied it, when we proved it they ran away. Now that they offered to not steal in the future we should be satisfied? no no no.

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Then don't participate. But until you can go over their records or have them deny you access you can't be 100% sure that they stole anything. Just because attendance numbers are posted on internet sites doesn't mean they are accurate. That's why real organizations like the PPA don't make accusations like this on an internet forum. It seems to me that you all have done a fine job uncovering what looks very likely to be some shady business and you've reported it to the PPA. Now let them go and decide how they want to proceed.

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the president of the PPA told me that this is more of a case for the WPA. he said that the PPA allowed the CEO tour to promote the PPA at events in order to get more poker players aware of the PPA and that was the extent of their relationship. when i asked if the PPA will allow the CEO tour to promote the PPA at future events he said, "I don’t know. I’m waiting to see how this gets resolved. I don’t have the resources to figure out what transpired here. We are going to wait and see."

[Emperor]

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Why should the CEO poker tour be allowed to continue? They stole money from their participants, denied it, when we proved it they ran away. Now that they offered to not steal in the future we should be satisfied? no no no.

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Then don't participate. But until you can go over their records or have them deny you access you can't be 100% sure that they stole anything. Just because attendance numbers are posted on internet sites doesn't mean they are accurate. That's why real organizations like the PPA don't make accusations like this on an internet forum. It seems to me that you all have done a fine job uncovering what looks very likely to be some shady business and you've reported it to the PPA. Now let them go and decide how they want to proceed.

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the president of the PPA told me that this is more of a case for the WPA. he said that the PPA allowed the CEO tour to promote the PPA at events in order to get more poker players aware of the PPA and that was the extent of their relationship. when i asked if the PPA will allow the CEO tour to promote the PPA at future events he said, "I don’t know. I’m waiting to see how this gets resolved. I don’t have the resources to figure out what transpired here. We are going to wait and see."

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"Wait and see" is irresponsible.

Analogy: I hold the door open for a nice group of men entering a bank with ski masks. They proceed to rob the bank. I decide to wait and see how the situation gets resolved instead of calling the police and disassociating myself from the thieves.

[stephenNUTS]

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the president of the PPA told me that this is more of a case for the WPA. he said that the PPA allowed the CEO tour to promote the PPA at events in order to get more poker players aware of the PPA and that was the extent of their relationship. when i asked if the PPA will allow the CEO tour to promote the PPA at future events he said, "I don’t know. I’m waiting to see how this gets resolved. I don’t have the resources to figure out what transpired here. We are going to wait and see."

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Unfortunatley for The CEO Poker Tour,the WPA or PPA,or any other SRO for that matter,is going to be a major concern for them in the long run.
Their real problem is going to be with those guys that wear windbreakers and also give out bracelets to put on you,only their kind fit snuggly with your wrists behind your back.

~stephen feraca

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Analogy: I hold the door open for a nice group of men entering a bank with ski masks. They proceed to rob the bank. I decide to wait and see how the situation gets resolved instead of calling the police and disassociating myself from the thieves.

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ban all analogies on 2p2 ever please. thanks!

[Zetack]

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Analogy: I hold the door open for a nice group of men entering a bank with ski masks. They proceed to rob the bank. I decide to wait and see how the situation gets resolved instead of calling the police and disassociating myself from the thieves.

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ban all analogies on 2p2 ever please. thanks!

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Baning analogies on 2p2 would be like trying to drink a gallon of milk through a three foot straw riddled with 1/8 inch holes.

[stephenNUTS]

I have learned some important lessons since this whole CEO fiasco began.When it comes down to the bottom line,if you dont take the bull by the horns yourself no-one will,and most SRO's in general are a waste of time.

I have accomplished more by myself w/counsel in a mere week,than any PPA,WPA,whatever could have innitiated in a year,which is quite embarassing on their part.

Waiting for the "BOARD" to arrive/get together,after approving this CEO Tour to begin with,is now becoming a joke.It very easy for ten "members" of these boards to sit around ,waste time and point fingers at each other,just wasting precious time now.If they were to walk side by side with me WE might just get the desired results from this disaster

As I have stated numerous times before,I am not only doing this for restitution for myself,as well as hopefully helping the many 2+2'ers that have PM'ed me with their info and kind words of encouragment,I am more driven to put these CEO criminals in a 6'x 10' cell.

I wont even get into other "ORG's" that want to get involved,but seem to be all talk,no action

I know things take time in the justice system,but we have heard NOTHING from anyone except Greg Reymer,stating that "someone" else approved this CEO Tour by themselves,and they are working on it?

The more time things like this drag out,the more likely they walk away unscathed.(e.g. look at the 4+ year back-up in civil liability cases in the US)

totally digusted,
~stephen feraca

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I have accomplished more by myself w/counsel in a mere week...

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This is the only sentence in your post that is worth reading. Of course you accomplished more by yourself with your attorney, and if you hadn't I'd be shocked. It's time that others here who feel they have been defrauded take the bull by the horns, and do what you did. Waiting for any third party organization to do anything for you is pointless. The PPA didn't defraud you. They didn't take your money. All they did was enter into an agreement with the CPT (I'm tired of writing out the whole name of that tour) to get some brand awareness for themselves. I'm still not sure why their name has been dragged through the mud over this rogue group except I'd expect nothing less from many people on an internet forum who clearly have too much time on their hands and who, unlike you Stephen, are loathe to publicly identify themselves as professional poker players.

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Thank alot Rottersod

[Bidz]

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Analogy: I hold the door open for a nice group of men entering a bank with ski masks. They proceed to rob the bank. I decide to wait and see how the situation gets resolved instead of calling the police and disassociating myself from the thieves.

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ban all analogies on 2p2 ever please. thanks!

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Baning analogies on 2p2 would be like trying to drink a gallon of milk through a three foot straw riddled with 1/8 inch holes.

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awesome