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Old 07-22-2007, 04:35 AM
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Any idea when this will be available at amazon.com? I would order it from ConJelCo directly (hey, you even support Paypal) but international ordering isn't as flexible as on Amazon: I wouldn't want to take the chance of getting the package lost with the cheapest shipping method from Conjelco [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 07-22-2007, 04:00 PM
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Any idea when this will be available at amazon.com? I would order it from ConJelCo directly (hey, you even support Paypal) but international ordering isn't as flexible as on Amazon: I wouldn't want to take the chance of getting the package lost with the cheapest shipping method from Conjelco [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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I ordered via professionalpoker.com from Chile the 20th. The 21 they mailed me saying the book was shipped. I'm waiting now but it looks like a good option and a very serious website.

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Old 07-22-2007, 04:24 PM
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I ordered via professionalpoker.com from Chile the 20th. The 21 they mailed me saying the book was shipped. I'm waiting now but it looks like a good option and a very serious website.

Best wishes.

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Looks good, except for this little detail:
"This means that the risk of loss and title for such items pass to you upon our delivery to the carrier."

I know there might be a good reason for this, but there just seems to be some edge towards the Big Company on this issue. This was my concern. Sure I would like to order from the dedicated company instead, in principle at least [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]
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Old 07-22-2007, 04:34 PM
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That is why I ordered from Amazon. I don't believe passing the risk of loss to the customer is a good policy.
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Old 07-22-2007, 10:35 PM
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Looks good, except for this little detail:
"This means that the risk of loss and title for such items pass to you upon our delivery to the carrier."

I know there might be a good reason for this, but there just seems to be some edge towards the Big Company on this issue. This was my concern. Sure I would like to order from the dedicated company instead, in principle at least [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

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Actually, this is true of virtually all deliveries including those sent from Amazon. If your package is lost or damaged, you must seek compensation from the carrier (i.e. UPS or the USPS). The seller's liability ended when they dropped the package in the mail. Now that doesn't mean they won't send you another one as a good business practice, but you cannot win a lawsuit seeking damages against them unless the contract was designated as a destination contract in some way.
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Old 07-23-2007, 01:40 AM
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Quite right, everything shipped is designated either Freight on Board Shipping, or FOB destination. This designates at what point transfer of ownership occurs. If the package is lost by the shipping company is liable, if you added insurance. It's not bad that they shipped it FOB shipping. It's just where they transfer ownership, and nothing is abnormal.
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Old 07-23-2007, 06:42 AM
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Looks good, except for this little detail:
"This means that the risk of loss and title for such items pass to you upon our delivery to the carrier."

I know there might be a good reason for this, but there just seems to be some edge towards the Big Company on this issue. This was my concern. Sure I would like to order from the dedicated company instead, in principle at least [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

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Actually, this is true of virtually all deliveries including those sent from Amazon. If your package is lost or damaged, you must seek compensation from the carrier (i.e. UPS or the USPS). The seller's liability ended when they dropped the package in the mail. Now that doesn't mean they won't send you another one as a good business practice, but you cannot win a lawsuit seeking damages against them unless the contract was designated as a destination contract in some way.

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Yes might be - they just don't stress that point at Am (haven't seen it on their site).. And what I have heard from friends they do ship another copy if the first one doesn't get through. So basically just the practice is what I'm interested in..
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Old 07-24-2007, 10:53 AM
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Looks good, except for this little detail:
"This means that the risk of loss and title for such items pass to you upon our delivery to the carrier."

I know there might be a good reason for this, but there just seems to be some edge towards the Big Company on this issue. This was my concern. Sure I would like to order from the dedicated company instead, in principle at least [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

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Actually, this is true of virtually all deliveries including those sent from Amazon. If your package is lost or damaged, you must seek compensation from the carrier (i.e. UPS or the USPS). The seller's liability ended when they dropped the package in the mail. Now that doesn't mean they won't send you another one as a good business practice, but you cannot win a lawsuit seeking damages against them unless the contract was designated as a destination contract in some way.

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Yes - I found it, Amazon had the exact same condition on their Conditions of Use page.

Now it would be nice to know what happens in practice in any webshop that I use [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] At least some shippings can be trackable so it would probably help.
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Old 07-22-2007, 04:44 PM
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I ordered via professionalpoker.com from Chile the 20th. The 21 they mailed me saying the book was shipped. I'm waiting now but it looks like a good option and a very serious website.

Best wishes.


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I ordered earlier than this and have yet to receive one of these emails. Does this mean that my order has definitely yet to be shipped? : (
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Old 07-22-2007, 04:52 PM
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I'm in the same boat with you Willpower. Looks like we're at the end of the list, a few more days wait won't kill me but I'd love to get my hands on it!
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