Suppose Tipping Poker Dealers Was Illegal

[Wolverine]

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I posted a similar reply in another thread, but basically why do dealers make so much? It really makes no sense to me. They aren't doing a hard job. They are using a very small portion of their brain to count some chips and throw some cards. As far as i'm concerned if a dealer makes $12-15/hr they should be happy.

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[suzy89222]

while i agree with you, you can say the same thing about most bartenders, waiters, taxi drivers, etc.

[PITTM]

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while i agree with you, you SHOULD say the same thing about most bartenders, waiters, taxi drivers, etc.

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QFT

[suzy89222]

i know i should know this, but what does QFT stand for?

[jh12547]

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Tip pooling makes the game quality suck. Keep the tipping system as long as the dealers get to keep their individual tips. The best dealers should and do make more than the average ones do.

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Agree 100% with this post

Foxwoods dealers dont keep their own tips and i always read on here how much a lot of you say their dealers suck. Probably because most dont have to be good or care since someone either on another table or in the table games will make money for them. If dealers keep their own tip many of their attitudes would positively change.

[PITTM]

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i know i should know this, but what does QFT stand for?

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quoted for truth(iness).

[Number27]

For those of you saying that e-tables are the solution I think you are ignoring that many tourists and casual gamblers want to hold cards and chips and pretend that they're maverick at the poker table. While e-tables might be more efficient in terms of faster deals/tipping it will almost certainly scare away some portion of the fish who will go back to the blackjack tables.

[bravos1]

DS, You make a horrible assumption that the rooms/casinos will increase their dealer's pay for compensation. Why would they do that? They "may" raise the base salary (to keep from having a mass revolt), but I would lay 10:1 that it would in no way be near enough to compensate for tips lost. Sure, they may lose a few dealers, but they don't care, and will easily replace them.

[the_scalp]

David,

I'd be estatic if tipping were illegal, but dealers were paid 1$ per hand dealt (more in rooms where quality dealers were really important, i.e. Bobby's room). You'd need to balance this by charging a penalty (5$?) for misdeals that required the floor to be called -- the 5$ could spalsh the next pot.

The casinos could charge a (10%) four dollar rake and make a steady 3$ per hand. Dealers would get through hands faster, knowing that their income is dependant on speed and not making mistakes.

[David Steele]

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The problem with this concept is that it assumes that the only regular players are winning players.

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Not really, just that the regular winning players wouldn't be over-tipping. The regular losing players that over-tip will be spared that money wasting. Sanely-tipping-regular-losing players will also be hurt.

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Also, the rooms with the highest rake, such as Commerce, tend to be the most successful

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Successful for the card-room, but locally ( Vancouver ) the growth is mostly in low limit games.

D.