Just how young (and why) are the top players online?

[cbloom]

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About "old people" being clueless about computers and the "internets"? Who do you think invented them? Uh, someone who's now in his late 50s and 60s and older. Duh.


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... but they did it when they were young.

If you thought programming your VCR was mysterious and difficult, you're too dumb for poker. If you ever used AOL to get on the internet, you're probably too dumb for poker. If you ever referred to your monitor as your "computer", you're too dumb for poker.

[yi style]

the combination of online multitabling and access to information on successful strategy means accelerated improvement to those who take advantage of it.

I play live occasionally at a local casino, and in a $30 tournament a couple of weeks ago (which i won ldo), it took only about 5 minutes at my initial table for the idea of online poker being rigged to come up. Most of the older crowd seemed so inherently skeptical of online poker.

I think that obv lack of time is the key issue, but I also think that some older folks are just so set in their ways that the idea of using the internet to learn about the game sounds absurd when they can just go on down to the casino and play.

[antisocialgrace]

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About "old people" being clueless about computers and the "internets"? Who do you think invented them? Uh, someone who's now in his late 50s and 60s and older. Duh.


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... but they did it when they were young.

If you thought programming your VCR was mysterious and difficult, you're too dumb for poker. If you ever used AOL to get on the internet, you're probably too dumb for poker. If you ever referred to your monitor as your "computer", you're too dumb for poker.

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If you've ever posted multiple times in a Brandi thread you're probably too dumb for poker.

[daca]

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I have a sneaking suspicion that ZeeJustin, JJProdigy and BuustedJ are not alone amongst their peers. I believe young people are much less mature and constrained by conscience in terms of what they are willing to do to for an easy buck.

A lot of you haven't been around long enough to appreciate the social consequences of exploiting and taking advantage of your fellow human beings, but maybe one day you will.

Speaking for myself I'm just not motivated enough to figure out how to beat the "security" protocols on FTP, Prima and Stars, but I would guess there are plenty of kids with too much time on their hands who are.

ZeeJustin said all his friends (presumably players who have done as well as he has) were multi-accounting and I believe him. Reading all the misogynistic bile and reports of scam-mongering in NVG leads me to believe Poker Stars ethical guidelines concerning collusion aren't going to be taken real seriously by a lot of the resident punks either.

So basically its a combination of three things .. more leisure time to learn the game, more computer savvy and less scruples about using that knowledge to gain any and every advantage ethical or not.

JMHO.

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R U serious? Have you ever been to a casino or a live tournament? The amount of scamming scumbags and broke angleshooting degenerate gamblers is huge. I would much rather thrust a succesfull online player than a live grinder. Not saying that there arent alot of scumbags in online poker also.

I thinks its a combination of several things:

A change in demographics. In the past people who spent a lot of time playing poker often were degenerate gambler. After the poker boom its smart college students or the likes.

The amount of time able to spend obviously. Its hard to grind 100K hands a month when you have a wife and kids.

Computer skills and ability to use software and 2p2.

And young people pwn old people LDO.

[bmxicle]

Old people have a hard time learning new things, young people can pick up things much quicker, which for getting to the top of the poker world quickly is pretty important. What makes it harder for old people, is that players keep improving and you always need to be learning new things just to keep up with the pace of improvement in the games. so if on average, old people learn slower then younger people, they are at a huge disadvantage for even just keeping up.

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R U serious? Have you ever been to a casino or a live tournament? The amount of scamming scumbags and broke angleshooting degenerate gamblers is huge. I would much rather thrust a succesfull online player than a live grinder. Not saying that there arent alot of scumbags in online poker also.

I thinks its a combination of several things:

A change in demographics. In the past people who spent a lot of time playing poker often were degenerate gambler. After the poker boom its smart college students or the likes.

The amount of time able to spend obviously. Its hard to grind 100K hands a month when you have a wife and kids.

Computer skills and ability to use software and 2p2.

And young people pwn old people LDO.

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o rly?

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people who are 25+ with access to the money required to play high stakes poker online usually also have access to much better opportunities for that money. it's only the young who can't think of anything better to do with one mil plus than play poker.

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sbrugby: 25
pr1nnyraid: 23
durrr: 20
Phil Ivey: 31 (old geezer)
jinsokkp:
mjorgenson13: 20
traheho: 21?
Genius28: 20?
whitelime: 23



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one of these things is not like the other...

[jmremote]

young people have no concept of a hard earned $1. They never worked for money. Old people worked for years and years before they had the opportunity of online gambling. They value money a lot more

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young people have no concept of a hard earned $1. They never worked for money. Old people worked for years and years before they had the opportunity of online gambling. They value money a lot more

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most of the live pros are degenerate gamblers who die broke. Online ones are the guys who put money aside in mutual funds.