Restaurant refuses to sing happy bday to 6 yr old

[Los Feliz Slim]

[guids]

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quids,

I think you are forgetting how easy it was to be super disappointed about ridiculous crap when you were six.

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super ridicolous crap = rambo toy set not attention

[xxThe_Lebowskixx]

the kid sounds pretty spoiled if he actually got upset because they wouldnt sing happy bday to him. my parents would have asked once and if they were told no that wouldve been the end of it.

anyways, i am sure that his parents will be telling this story for years.

[wtfsvi]

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It might be a bit of a pisser, but ruining the meal and the whole day? That's bordering on hysteria. I'd hope for the kid's sake that his parents aren't that brittle and emo. God help them when something actually difficult comes their way, if this is some huge deal for them. And bad on them if they let their own disappointment even show much to the kid, much less wash over onto him and almost certainly greatly amplify the kid's being a bit bummed.

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[2/325Falcon]

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The LeBron pics from that thread turned out to be gold.

[Blarg]

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Driving out to the restaurant without knowing for sure if they'd be willing to do it was pretty thoughtless.

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Seriously Blarg what is wrong with you today?

The restaurant used to sing Happy Birthday. It used to be a crazy family place. This was known ahead of time. The main clientèle is still families.


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I didn't read this in the OP. Even so -- if so -- restaurants are allowed to change. They do it all the time. I still feel that a comped dessert is fine.

I don't feel any customer should think they have the right to insist on being an exception to a policy once it has been set or hassle multiple employees or the owner about it. The customer does not own the business.

Further, the employees this type of thing is usually complained about to generally have zero authority to change a policy anyway, so getting on them about it is a complete waste of time that can only lead to multiple people getting tense and upset.

A policy is a policy. No means no. This is not a big deal. An apology is in order from the hostess. A comped dessert would be a nice gesture. There's really no profit in just pushing and pushing it past there.

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They were prepared to go somewhere else if the restaurant said no. The hostess said yes. I don't know what more you expect the guy to do.


Answer me this:

What is the difference between calling and having the girl say yes and getting there and having the girl say yes, in terms of the fathers culpability?

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At the point he arrives, or before?

If he called before going, he had a chance to hear NO and not waste anyone's time. That's a positive outcome.

If he went there before knowing because he didn't call, then on his arrival, whether he was told there would be singing or not, there is no positive outcome. He has either wasted his family's time by immediately leaving a place he never should have gone to in the first place, or had the bum luck to have his kid disappointed by being told there would be singing. Zero positive outcome versus possible positive outcome. Clear choice.

This isn't really the crux of the matter anyway though. Dad's a poor planner vs. Dad hassles service employees -- the hassling part comes out worse. So does hostess's two screw-ups: 1) Telling customer the wrong thing, and 2) not handling it herself when it blows up in her face.

And from all accounts, this sounds like a blow up to me. It not only goes through waitstaff AND the hostess, but then when it manages to work it's way up to the owner, and dad STILL gets told no, he STILL keeps arguing! Yeesh. And now suddenly we hear that it's the owner who is stubborn or rude? You gotta be kidding me.

[Blarg]

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Blarg,

I've noticed you acting stupid a lot lately. Are you OK? Perhaps all the reading is getting you stressed.

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Ad hominem is what's stupid. Work on that, physician, and heal thyself.

[Eurotrash]

hypothetical.. if you guys owned a restaurant, how many 6 year olds do you think your place would be able to refuse to sing happy birthday to?

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I'm really confused on Blarg's logic through the whole thing.

It's the father's fault for believing the lower-rung employee in the first place.
But when something doesn't go smoothly he's supposed to have 100% faith in the same lower-rung employees?

Which is it?

Which is it?

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Man, this is gonna sound cold but its hard to even picture a grown man running around questioning everyone from the hostess to the janitor to the owner if they will sing happy bday to his kid. why didnt the group just sing it alone? do american parents really obsess this much over their kids?
is he off the nippple yet?

[guids]

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hypothetical.. if you guys owned a restaurant, how many 6 year olds do you think your place would be able to refuse to sing happy birthday to?

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how many you got pal?