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Old 07-06-2007, 09:16 AM
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I mean take FoF's points and deconstruct them. Im familiar with the land division of the promise land. I guess Im saying it would make my day if we saw these guys embarassed on national TV for lying about the Bible/fallaciously restating things for political gain.

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Seems that would move the argument onto their turf. I think we should keep it on ours...freedom, free will, and rights as Americans. With regard to their arguments, I guess we could simply say:

"If banning gambling were important to God, why doesn't the Bible say, 'thou shalt not gamble'? Seems God would have put something in there if He were concerned about this. Perhaps you oppose this because YOU PERSONALLY don't like it." Then, watch them stammer.

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To expand further, I think OBG's reply is right on. I can't imagine wanting to debate the Bible with fundamentalist preachers when we can stick to issues of freedom and hypocrisy.
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Old 07-06-2007, 11:33 AM
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I mean take FoF's points and deconstruct them. Im familiar with the land division of the promise land. I guess Im saying it would make my day if we saw these guys embarassed on national TV for lying about the Bible/fallaciously restating things for political gain.

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Seems that would move the argument onto their turf. I think we should keep it on ours...freedom, free will, and rights as Americans. With regard to their arguments, I guess we could simply say:

"If banning gambling were important to God, why doesn't the Bible say, 'thou shalt not gamble'? Seems God would have put something in there if He were concerned about this. Perhaps you oppose this because YOU PERSONALLY don't like it." Then, watch them stammer.

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To expand further, I think OBG's reply is right on. I can't imagine wanting to debate the Bible with fundamentalist preachers when we can stick to issues of freedom and hypocrisy.

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...or...you could simply say "separation of church and state"

/debate.
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Old 07-06-2007, 11:44 AM
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...or...you could simply say "separation of church and state"

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They don't believe in such a separation. Or, more accurately, they believe it's a one-way separation preventing government from regulating Christian churches.

They actually embrace the idea that church should be a large part of "state".
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