Awkward hand means awkward river

[Buzz-cp]

I has a flush I bet

[BigBadBabar]

lol @ looking to fold

[Shillx]

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lol @ looking to fold

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Calling a raise and a reraise is a huge leak imo. Hell I'm sick about it all against just a single raise. Flush over flush (using both cards) is quite common. About 24% of the time if all suited hands see the flop. And people love suited hands at these limits so I wouldn't expect the number to be too much lower.

[Zeldark]

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We're gonna lose to a better flush a good % of the time that we're raised.. That said I would still bet.

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They'll call with lots (and lots) of lesser hands.

[pokerkasper]

I would check.

If you donk-bet here you run the risk that the only caller you`ll get will be a (higher) flush. Some pairs or two pairs KT or T9 might call you. But you give them the extra chance to fold the made hand. By checking you give them a chance to bet a hand despite the flush-danger on board. My experience is that in micro-limits players are tempting to bet this hands here especially in LP but they rather fold if you bet first. So if someone has a hand you have a good chance to check-raise, which i wouldn`t recomend here especially if the bet doesn´t come from the CO (or CO-1). With 4 other players you might run into a higher flush.

If no one has a hand you lose nothing by checking. So my estimation is you make more profit here by checking the flush.

[KitCloudkicker]

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I would check.

If you donk-bet here you run the risk that the only caller you`ll get will be a (higher) flush. Some pairs or two pairs KT or T9 might call you. But you give them the extra chance to fold the made hand. By checking you give them a chance to bet a hand despite the flush-danger on board. My experience is that in micro-limits players are tempting to bet this hands here especially in LP but they rather fold if you bet first. So if someone has a hand you have a good chance to check-raise, which i wouldn`t recomend here especially if the bet doesn´t come from the CO (or CO-1). With 4 other players you might run into a higher flush.

If no one has a hand you lose nothing by checking. So my estimation is you make more profit here by checking the flush.

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no one is folding two pair.

people hardly ever fold top pair.

lol at checking b/c "no one will call". you ever play poker before dude?

[OziBattler]

woot. Hello valuetown! hero makes his hand on the river so hero bets and expects to be paid off by a surprising number of hands. Our objective here is to get as many bets from weaker hands rather that to blow them out of the water. bet > CR.

[pokerkasper]

O M G!

there is never a

"no one is folding two pair.
people hardly ever fold top pair."

simply don´t give them the extra-chance to make good decisions, but give them any chance to make bad decisions and probably some extra money for you.

As for you: I am the guy who fold two pair or top pair on the river depending on my pair(s), the board, the number of players and the betting patterns. 5+ players and clear draws out is a clear fold. You need about 19-1 to call for a bluff on the river.

But i´m glad about every sucker who call my flushes here.

[kerowo]

I'm leading this flop because I want 6 people putting in monies. I'm betting the river because I made the hand I wanted to make. There be Variance thar! But really, flush over isn't that common.

[marchron]

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But really, flush over isn't that common.

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True as this is, it'd be a lot more likely here than in most other hands. We have the second worst possible flush (since we hold 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] the only flush that can be worse given this board is 53[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]) and there's four other people who were hanging around until this point for some reason.

Given that, I don't think check/call is terrible here.