FLORIDA ALLOWING POKER GAME STAKES TO BE RAISED IN JULY!

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as much as id like to check out ALL the cardrooms when i come to FL i think ill be forced to play mostly at the hard rock, cause i dont like leaving casinos at midnite, i tend to play for like 15 hrs or more straight all nite long til the city buses start running in the morning.

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City buses? Forget it. Public transportation SUCKS in FL. The only place where buses are +EV is Gainesville, and there's no cardroom within 50 miles. Hell, even the cabs are extremely sketchy.

And besides, the only place running 24/7 is the Hard Rocks. So that's why you'll mostly play there. Games are the easiest there, too.

And yes, this thread should be in B&M now. It's no longer legislation, it's the law. Since it deals with state B&M legislation, it should probably be in B&M in the first place.

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City buses? Forget it. Public transportation SUCKS in FL.

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I can't imagine trying to wait for a bus or whatever in Ft. Lauderdale or Tampa/St. Pete areas.
NOT a good idea.
Do they have pick-up/drop-off anywhere near some of these casinos? Somehow I doubt it.

I haven't paid much attention to public-transportation around Florida but my guess is it's ineffective and sketchy enough to make it pretty unwise to count on it.

If you don't have a car I might suggest you are probably going to need one.

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City buses? Forget it. Public transportation SUCKS in FL.

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posts like this show WHY 2+2 forums does NOT REPRESENT THE AVERAGE POKER PLAYER. 2+2 is composed mostly of winning professionals and people who are pretty well off financially. not a bunch of people working at minimum wage $6 an hr jobs and without cars, and on public assistance. i would guaranttee u at least 100-200 people ride the bus to the cardrooms every day even if not all of them are on a bus route. id also be willing to make a $100 bet with anyone on this forum i could even find a casino dealer who does. i certainly did when i was at the seminole casino in ft lauderdale in 2003. i dont know how to drive, never owned a car in my life and im 38. yet i rode the bus every day to casinos in CA vegas, reno AC NJ davenport IA, and even phoenix, where its like a 8 block walk from the end of the busline to casino arizona, unless thats been improved.


I can't imagine trying to wait for a bus or whatever in Ft. Lauderdale or Tampa/St. Pete areas.
NOT a good idea.
Do they have pick-up/drop-off anywhere near some of these casinos? Somehow I doubt it.

I haven't paid much attention to public-transportation around Florida but my guess is it's ineffective and sketchy enough to make it pretty unwise to count on it.

If you don't have a car I might suggest you are probably going to need one.

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City buses? Forget it. Public transportation SUCKS in FL.

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I can't imagine trying to wait for a bus or whatever in Ft. Lauderdale or Tampa/St. Pete areas.
NOT a good idea.
Do they have pick-up/drop-off anywhere near some of these casinos? Somehow I doubt it.

I haven't paid much attention to public-transportation around Florida but my guess is it's ineffective and sketchy enough to make it pretty unwise to count on it.

If you don't have a car I might suggest you are probably going to need one.

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posts like this show WHY 2+2 forums does NOT REPRESENT THE AVERAGE POKER PLAYER. 2+2 is composed mostly of winning professionals and people who are pretty well off financially. not a bunch of people working at minimum wage $6 an hr jobs and without cars, and on public assistance. i would guaranttee u at least 100-200 people ride the bus to the cardrooms every day even if not all of them are on a bus route. id also be willing to make a $100 bet with anyone on this forum i could even find a casino dealer who does. i certainly did when i was at the seminole casino in ft lauderdale in 2003. i dont know how to drive, never owned a car in my life and im 38. yet i rode the bus every day to casinos in CA vegas, reno AC NJ davenport IA, and even phoenix, where its like a 8 block walk from the end of the busline to casino arizona, unless thats been improved.


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FYP. Literally.

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City buses? Forget it. Public transportation SUCKS in FL.

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I can't imagine trying to wait for a bus or whatever in Ft. Lauderdale or Tampa/St. Pete areas.
NOT a good idea.
Do they have pick-up/drop-off anywhere near some of these casinos? Somehow I doubt it.

I haven't paid much attention to public-transportation around Florida but my guess is it's ineffective and sketchy enough to make it pretty unwise to count on it.

If you don't have a car I might suggest you are probably going to need one.

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posts like this show WHY 2+2 forums does NOT REPRESENT THE AVERAGE POKER PLAYER. 2+2 is composed mostly of winning professionals and people who are pretty well off financially. not a bunch of people working at minimum wage $6 an hr jobs and without cars, and on public assistance. i would guaranttee u at least 100-200 people ride the bus to the cardrooms every day even if not all of them are on a bus route. id also be willing to make a $100 bet with anyone on this forum i could even find a casino dealer who does. i certainly did when i was at the seminole casino in ft lauderdale in 2003. i dont know how to drive, never owned a car in my life and im 38. yet i rode the bus every day to casinos in CA vegas, reno AC NJ davenport IA, and even phoenix, where its like a 8 block walk from the end of the busline to casino arizona, unless thats been improved.


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FYP. Literally.

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And now to address the subject matter. Florida has massive urban sprawl. As a result, cities cannot afford effective mass transit like the T, the NYC MTA subway, the DC Metro, or BART. A lot of the reason high-speed rail was canceled in this state is that the mass transit in the cities to be served was insufficient.

There are bus stops at the Hard Rock in Tampa, but many of the dog tracks and such are in very rural areas. I don't know about mass transit in Broward and Dade. If the buses work for you, good on ya! But in Tampa, it's a jopke.

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going to the indian casinos might not be good right off the bat. they are not directly governed by florida law, so the indian gaming commision will have to approve any changes in stakes there.

[Truthiness24]

Bob: I hope that you are more right about this than me. I always hedge my expectations -- it's instinct & and occupational hazard.

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going to the indian casinos will probably be good right off the bat. since they are not directly governed by florida law, <font color="white">so</font> the indian gaming commision will be swift and liberal in approving changes in stakes there.

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FYP.

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City buses? Forget it. Public transportation SUCKS in FL.

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I can't imagine trying to wait for a bus or whatever in Ft. Lauderdale or Tampa/St. Pete areas.
NOT a good idea.
Do they have pick-up/drop-off anywhere near some of these casinos? Somehow I doubt it.

I haven't paid much attention to public-transportation around Florida but my guess is it's ineffective and sketchy enough to make it pretty unwise to count on it.

If you don't have a car I might suggest you are probably going to need one.

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posts like this show WHY 2+2 forums does NOT REPRESENT THE AVERAGE POKER PLAYER. 2+2 is composed mostly of winning professionals and people who are pretty well off financially. not a bunch of people working at minimum wage $6 an hr jobs and without cars, and on public assistance. i would guaranttee u at least 100-200 people ride the bus to the cardrooms every day even if not all of them are on a bus route. id also be willing to make a $100 bet with anyone on this forum i could even find a casino dealer who does. i certainly did when i was at the seminole casino in ft lauderdale in 2003. i dont know how to drive, never owned a car in my life and im 38. yet i rode the bus every day to casinos in CA vegas, reno AC NJ davenport IA, and even phoenix, where its like a 8 block walk from the end of the busline to casino arizona, unless thats been improved.


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FYP. Literally.

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And now to address the subject matter. Florida has massive urban sprawl. As a result, cities cannot afford effective mass transit like the T, the NYC MTA subway, the DC Metro, or BART. A lot of the reason high-speed rail was canceled in this state is that the mass transit in the cities to be served was insufficient.

There are bus stops at the Hard Rock in Tampa, but many of the dog tracks and such are in very rural areas. I don't know about mass transit in Broward and Dade. If the buses work for you, good on ya! But in Tampa, it's a jopke.

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Exactly!!

I live very close to Derby Lane and you would be hard pressed to find more than five people in the entire joint who took a bus to arrive there.

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[Rabid_Hippo]

What we should be doing, in addition to pressuring our cardrooms to be as aggressive as possible with the new law, is paying attention to the Division of Pari-Mutuel Waging's Notices of Proposed Rulemaking Division's Website. The regulatory level is where the fight will be ... I'm monitoring the Division's actions on the new law and will post when there's something to add.