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Old 03-01-2006, 03:10 PM
TheWorstPlayer TheWorstPlayer is offline
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Default Re: KK hand. 4400 stacks 5-10 6-max..

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You also mentioned this would be hard if villain bet 1k... I think you are looking at a better hand if villain bets 1k more than you are from a villain who bets the pot, generally.


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Really? I think 2K is more likely to be "Wow, I just hit my Q. Call my big bet with you AA!" and 1K is more likely to be "c/f is weak with AA (JJ?) even though I'm beating nothing, so here's a little blocking bet. Easy fold to a push."
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Old 03-01-2006, 03:15 PM
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Default Re: KK hand. 4400 stacks 5-10 6-max..

This is something I've recently started noticing. The natural bias of responses based on players' personal table image and resultant opponent tendencies. I've seen punter play and know that he is extremely tight. As a result, when he is in this situation with KK, he will never be ahead if he takes it to the river because his opponents for the most part will know that he isn't in there w/ A8.

I've never seen you play Strassa, but from the posts that I've read it seems like you have a much looser, more aggressive table image. Consequently, auto-folding this hand for you seems like a horrendous play.

The problem with punter's post isn't necessarily that "omg one pair for 440 bb's...auto fold". The problem is that he assumes he is the hero in this hand.
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Old 03-01-2006, 03:25 PM
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Default Re: KK hand. 4400 stacks 5-10 6-max..

Strassa will bet T-high for value because he is so crazy that players call him down with 9-high!
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Old 03-01-2006, 03:54 PM
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Default Re: KK hand. 4400 stacks 5-10 6-max..

You're off. He paid off half of that. 1 BB = $20 at 5/10.
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Old 03-01-2006, 03:59 PM
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Strassa will bet T-high for value because he is so crazy that players call him down with 9-high!

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lololol
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Old 03-01-2006, 04:01 PM
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Default Re: KK hand. 4400 stacks 5-10 6-max..

I dont play anything higher than NL50.

That being said...If you are raising a lot preflop, this guy could be re-popping you out of position with a marginal hand like TT JJ or AQ. I do this to LAGs to punish them for raising A9 and JQ.

Did you say "its probobly aces, but I'll call anyway....damnit, it was."?
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Old 03-01-2006, 04:03 PM
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Default Re: KK hand. 4400 stacks 5-10 6-max..

whoa - when i flat call a pf reraise w KK i am doing it to bust someone up on low card flop like this. i raise flop. no? ok, then i raise turn. river eh, bad card.
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Old 03-01-2006, 04:25 PM
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when i flat call a pf reraise w KK i am doing it to bust someone up

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Old 03-01-2006, 07:05 PM
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Default Re: KK hand. 4400 stacks 5-10 6-max..

Tough hand to play.

If this guy will fire 3 barrels, call the turn and insta-call the river (no reason to raise turn).

If this guy will fire 2 barrels and shut down on the river, shove the turn and hope he makes a crying call with a lower PP.

When he bets the turn, if you're not looking to bust him with KK here then you should fold. Calling to hope he shuts down on the river is horrible. The only reason to smooth call is for him to put more money in on the river for you the times you are ahead. So if you think you are behind on the turn, then fold.

The queen is an irrelevant card, unless of course he has QQ! 99-JJ will still bet this river if the player is at all aggro. With all this said, I agree with Strassa that you are only beating a bluff/semi-bluff (99-JJ) here. What is this guy's reraising range? Use that information to make your turn decision. Tough hand to be so deep, but I probably call the river and use that info the times I lose to get the money back from him later. Curious to see what he had.
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Old 03-01-2006, 07:11 PM
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this thead is retarded.

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no kidding
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