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Old 06-13-2007, 02:09 PM
katyseagull katyseagull is offline
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And I think the right would elect Fidel Castro before they'd elect Hillary.

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They hate her THAT much? If that's the case the democrats should seriously consider if she's a good choice for their candidate. Sounds like she is a horrible choice.



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Edwards has probably made little impression on the average democrat besides being known for a helluva haircut.



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A helluva haircut and a great big phony smile! That guy can go from serious to smiling in a heartbeat. I think it works against him. Someone needs to tell him that it doesn't make us like him any better.
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Old 06-13-2007, 03:51 PM
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And I think the right would elect Fidel Castro before they'd elect Hillary.

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They hate her THAT much? If that's the case the democrats should seriously consider if she's a good choice for their candidate. Sounds like she is a horrible choice.





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The Democrats have a problem on their hands. Their top three candidates are a woman (whom a very large portion of the population hates like the plague), a black man, and a haircut.

I don't want this to be taken the wrong way, though it probably will be. A white woman will win the red states before a black man will, and there was a fair amount of support for Colin Powell in the red states. The Democratic nominee will be Hilary. Obama would need a huge swell at the convention for the Dem machine to put him up.

Rudy will probably win the Repubs, on the strength of his 9/11 theme. Although Fred Thompson does put a wrinkle in Rudy's plans. McCain, though a war hero, is too much a maverick to be trusted by the Repub machine, he's burned them too many times before. He's out.

Kerry had a better chance of winning than the Democrats do this time around. Unless every single blue area voter gets out. Because the red states will definitely hit the polls to beat Hilary.
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Old 06-13-2007, 04:02 PM
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If Dems want to win for sure it would be Gore/Obama 2008
But Obama/Clark or Obama/Bayh or Obama/Warner would probably be good to.

Hillary is FUBAR if she wins. Thompson will beat her.

I think most of america is reayd to move past the Bush/Clinton dynastys. Knowing the Dem party though..thye will choose Hillary as their nominee.
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Old 06-13-2007, 04:06 PM
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The Republicans do not fear Obama. They do fear Hilary.
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Old 06-13-2007, 04:03 PM
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A bit OT, but if Obama gets the nomination,he'll get my vote. Not cause I know anything about him, but because he doesn't seem to bad and isn't a repub. Also, can anyone forward me good info on Obama's poly views, sinc i will prolly end up voting for him?
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Old 06-13-2007, 04:06 PM
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Yup. Hillary will do more for the Republican turn-out than anything but another war possibly could.

I also think Hillary will be the most likely candidate. But she'll almost certainly lose. Really, the election is the Republicans' to lose this time. Only if they really mess it up will they not get elected.

The Democratic party has done too little to groom anyone but Hillary. The Republicans have been grooming Giuliani for a long time, and of course the perennial McCain is there to fall back on. I don't see either losing to Hillary. Probably even Fred Thompson has good odds against her. The Democratic side has no depth at all in their candidates when it comes to established public perception. Obama's out because he's black, Hillary's out because she's both a woman AND because she's Hillary, and their fallback plan is ... Edwards? Most people don't know anything about him. He certainly has gathered no gravitas thus far. He's not even old and gruff, unlike Fred Thompson. He's pretty, for gawdsakes. Electing him would be like electing Orlando Bloom. The Dems are pretty much forced to pick Hillary, who is a guaranteed loss.

/election for Dems
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Old 06-13-2007, 04:15 PM
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Yes, and that's weird, because Dubya has no juice at all left with the Republicans. His endorsement as outgoing two-termer is like the kiss of death. I can't think of a faction of the right he hasn't [censored] on.

But at the same time the Repubs are golden compared to the Democrats. As you say, if they'd done anything but sit back and watch the clock waiting for Hilary's turn to come around, they might have a shot. They seriously misjudged the extent of Hilary hate/fear in this country imo.
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Old 06-13-2007, 04:28 PM
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Yup. I have heard some folks saying she's thought to "deserve" the nomination. But whether that's true or not, or why, doesn't really matter. Giving her her just desserts, if that's what this is partially about, doesn't have anything to do with winning elections.

The Dems just seem to be totally at a loss as to what to do in practical terms.
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Old 06-13-2007, 04:36 PM
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The Dems just seem to be totally at a loss as to what to do in practical terms.

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Which opens the door very wide for that white knight in shiny armor to swoop in after all the mudslinging and save the day for the dems. Go Gore!
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Old 06-13-2007, 04:38 PM
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I think the dems are really expecting Al Gore to run - if he does, I'll probably switch my vote from Rudy to Gore.
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