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Old 02-28-2006, 03:29 PM
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Default Re: On ZeeJustin\'s behalf

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What's considered cheating? If this was the case and we followed your rules then almost anyone successful in any capitalistic society will have nothing. Why? Because everyone cuts corners. Everyone. Don't be a damn liar and say you don't.

Your proposal and anything close to it is absolutely ludacrous and hypocritical and anyone who agrees with it is too.

[/ QUOTE ] What's considered cheating? I think it's pretty simple -- anything that is against the rules that increases the chances that you will win money, and decreases the chances that your opponents will win money.

We can get complicated here and say that rakeback fits under this definition. Or whatever. But here's a a pretty simple way to figure out if something is cheating. Imagine asking the person who finished second in a big tournament to ZeeJustin whether he felt cheated by ZeeJustin's actions?

Did you know that ZeeJustin gets rakeback illegaly (person who finished in second: "So?")
Did you know that ZeeJustin doesn't file taxes on his winnings (person who finished in second: "So?")
Did you know that ZeeJustin had six entries in this tournament (person who finished in second: "XXXXXXXXXXXX")

Fill in the blanks yourself for any situation: Did you know that Zeejustin _____________________ (person who finished in second: _______________)

When the person in second place feels cheated, then the poker community as a whole is threatened. Given the number of people who feel that online poker is rigged to begin with, this is not a trivial issue.

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All three situations do in fact affect one party or another(haha pun). Whether it is a player, a company, or the country in which that player is a citizen. Cheating is defined as breaking the rules, not as breaking the rules against another poker player. Everyone cheats. So it is hypocritical and dumb to say that all cheaters should have everything taken away from them.

For what it's worth I am mostly content with the punishment and I am more concerned with the people who want to burn Justin at the stake and the people who blindly refuse to look at themselves or Party before lashing at Justin.
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