Michael Moore and socialized medicine

[Ron Paul]

The awesomeness that is socialized dental care.

[tehox]

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The awesomeness that is socialized dental care.

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Wow the British "socialized" dental system is not perfect. That means that all government intervention into health care will result in failure.

[NeBlis]

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The awesomeness that is socialized dental care.

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Wow the British "socialized" dental system is not perfect. That means that all government intervention into health care will result in failure.

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well ... since every single current and past example of socialized medicine suck I tend to doubt we are going to magically come up with a perect one. Maybe you are thinking of some different government than I am living with

[NeBlis]

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However, if you think that everyones life is equally important, and everyone deserves equal health care,

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WTF ??? where the hell do you people come up with this crap?

Everyone is NOT equal but they do have equal opportunity. Everyone doesn't have equal heath care but they do have equal access.

[tehox]

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Everyone doesn't have equal heath care but they do have equal access.

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Don't really know what you mean by this. I guess hypothetically if there was total equality of opportunity, then everyone would have an equal opportunity of making enough money to pay for their health care?

[tehox]

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The awesomeness that is socialized dental care.

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Wow the British "socialized" dental system is not perfect. That means that all government intervention into health care will result in failure.

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well ... since every single current and past example of socialized medicine suck I tend to doubt we are going to magically come up with a perect one. Maybe you are thinking of some different government than I am living with

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I don't think any system is going to be a "perfect" one.

I think the main point that people disagree on (at least in this forum) is the sanctity of every human life and the length that we should go as a society to protect that. Another question is what length we are going to go to provide health care to everyone (for those that want to do that). You put enough $$$ into it and everyone could have top notch health care.

To me a sort of trivial question is how more/less efficient or costly would government paid for health care cost (and I think it is important to note that not even Canada has truly "socialized" health care). I personally don't buy that more government intervention would really equal more costly/less efficient care. I think part of this has do with the fact that already there is significant government intervention, and oftentimes local/state govt and charities pick up the slack. So the $$$ are being spent and many uninsured people are still getting health care, just not very efficiently.
I think most importantly that health care is really different than other industries. I think that not only are you doing with something that a price can't be put on, people's health and lives, but the people involved in the industry are also very different. People in medicine are very smart and very motivated and especially these days are in a very demanding career path, where they could probably make more money doing other things. And I don't see how goverment intervention is really giong to change that.