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Old 06-07-2007, 11:04 PM
ShakeZula06 ShakeZula06 is offline
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Default Re: Michael Moore and socialized medicine

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One thing is for sure: It would benefit more people than a free market system. If you disagree with this, you don't know what you're talking about.

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It would serve more people probably, but it would be a downgrade for most, and it's not a net benefit for the individuals involved by any stretch of the word.
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Now isn't it worth paying a little extra in tax to save people's lives? Oh I forgot, they're poor. Yeah, I guess we should forget about them then.

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No ones stopping you from helping them or convincing others to help them. How about you go work on that instead of taking money out of my pocket while acting like you have some moral high ground?
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Guess what. That's EXCACTLY why countries have a social health care systems. Everybody gets treated the SAME, since no life is worth more than another.


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This is just dumb. Bill Gate's life has had a huge positive on society. Some bum with no job just takes from others. If you want to help a bum out, go ahead. Don't force me to subsidize him.
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One more thing. Yes, it costs money, but it's just a matter of priorities.

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Subjective priorities you want to enforce on others.
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For example, in the "socialist" country I live in, people with average income pay about the same tax as in the us. And still health care is free! How could this be? Well, we don't use 1/3 of our budgets on military. So if your goverment could just stop making wars for some time, you could afford free health care for all. Wouldn't that be great, instead of using that money on tanks? No?

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Instead of killing you, I'm just going to break your arm, see that's better right? Sure but I'd rather you not harm me at all in the first place.
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Old 06-08-2007, 12:23 AM
NeBlis NeBlis is offline
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Default Re: Michael Moore and socialized medicine

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One thing is for sure: It would benefit more people than a free market system. If you disagree with this, you don't know what you're talking about.

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It would serve more people probably, but it would be a downgrade for most, and it's not a net benefit for the individuals involved by any stretch of the word.
[ QUOTE ]
Now isn't it worth paying a little extra in tax to save people's lives? Oh I forgot, they're poor. Yeah, I guess we should forget about them then.

[/ QUOTE ]
No ones stopping you from helping them or convincing others to help them. How about you go work on that instead of taking money out of my pocket while acting like you have some moral high ground?
[ QUOTE ]
Guess what. That's EXCACTLY why countries have a social health care systems. Everybody gets treated the SAME, since no life is worth more than another.


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This is just dumb. Bill Gate's life has had a huge positive on society. Some bum with no job just takes from others. If you want to help a bum out, go ahead. Don't force me to subsidize him.
[ QUOTE ]
One more thing. Yes, it costs money, but it's just a matter of priorities.

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Subjective priorities you want to enforce on others.
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For example, in the "socialist" country I live in, people with average income pay about the same tax as in the us. And still health care is free! How could this be? Well, we don't use 1/3 of our budgets on military. So if your goverment could just stop making wars for some time, you could afford free health care for all. Wouldn't that be great, instead of using that money on tanks? No?

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Instead of killing you, I'm just going to break your arm, see that's better right? Sure but I'd rather you not harm me at all in the first place.

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MY PONY TO SLOW .. you wrote just about my exact respose
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