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Old 06-07-2007, 12:07 AM
Matt R. Matt R. is offline
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What? So if a non-Christian forms the opinion that prostitution is immoral and does not condone it in this case, his opinion is totally cool and rational right? I am pretty sure "your Christian friends at work" or whoever had their reasons for thinking prostitution was wrong even in this case. Just because you disagree with them does not mean they are irrational.

Also, maybe I am misunderstanding your conclusion, but from this: "Such is the irrationality Christian's exhibit." it appears you are stating that because you quizzed a few random people who happen to be Christian at work, and you disagree with them (and this automatically makes their opinion irrational), that all Christians exhibit irrationality. If I find a few atheist friends who think prostitution is always wrong under any circumstances, would I be correct to say "such is the irrationality atheists exhibit"? Think about this for a second.
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Old 06-07-2007, 12:20 AM
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What? So if a non-Christian forms the opinion that prostitution is immoral and does not condone it in this case, his opinion is totally cool and rational right? I am pretty sure "your Christian friends at work" or whoever had their reasons for thinking prostitution was wrong even in this case. Just because you disagree with them does not mean they are irrational.

Also, maybe I am misunderstanding your conclusion, but from this: "Such is the irrationality Christian's exhibit." it appears you are stating that because you quizzed a few random people who happen to be Christian at work, and you disagree with them (and this automatically makes their opinion irrational), that all Christians exhibit irrationality. If I find a few atheist friends who think prostitution is always wrong under any circumstances, would I be correct to say "such is the irrationality atheists exhibit"? Think about this for a second.



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Matt,

Atheism isn't a belief system. Christianity is. And any reading of the NT will prove that the dogmatic viewpoints discussed in the OP are rooted in christian teachings.

Like any cookie cutter, your argument applies to some things, but not others. Guess which one this is?
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Old 06-07-2007, 02:54 AM
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how is atheism not a belief system? it may not draw its "doctrines" from a single text, but it is certainly based on a fundamental belief.

@toffler: you make it sound as though if your friends weren't christians, they would not deny this man sex. if the man's desire was something completely reprehensible, would they be wrong to do so "just b/c the bible says so." would you have less of a problem with their decision if they were atheists/agnostic?
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Old 06-07-2007, 04:46 AM
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how is atheism not a belief system? it may not draw its "doctrines" from a single text, but it is certainly based on a fundamental belief.

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It certainly is not. It is based on an absence of belief.
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Old 06-07-2007, 11:01 AM
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how is atheism not a belief system? it may not draw its "doctrines" from a single text, but it is certainly based on a fundamental belief.

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It certainly is not. It is based on an absence of belief.

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That's the ideal though. It's not difficult to notice that there is sort of an "fundamental atheist" collection around these parts.

Ironic, isn't it.
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Old 06-07-2007, 11:11 AM
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Its not ironic, its like criticising an "a-racist" for being fundamentalist - they should respect the opposite opinion right?
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Old 06-07-2007, 11:12 AM
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how is atheism not a belief system? it may not draw its "doctrines" from a single text, but it is certainly based on a fundamental belief.

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It certainly is not. It is based on an absence of belief.

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That's the ideal though. It's not difficult to notice that there is sort of an "fundamental atheist" collection around these parts.

Ironic, isn't it.

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and a lot of tall guys on a basketball court? This is a SMP forum so it tends to attract the SMP type of atheist. I don't have to leave my office to find some very different atheists and at the coffee shop and when I arrive home. In fact, I can think of only one SMP type atheist in any of the ones I know on a first name basis.

Most atheists credit much more practical reasoning for their lack of belief.

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Old 06-07-2007, 01:28 PM
FortunaMaximus FortunaMaximus is offline
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So they do.

In any event, my last comment wasn't intended to be snarky or dismissive.

The irony for me in observing those religious debates in here, is that the vitriol rarely comes from the theist side. Be like water and all that, I guess.

Apologies if that wasn't clear.
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Old 06-10-2007, 05:46 AM
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As always, luckyme hits the bullseye...
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Old 06-11-2007, 12:24 PM
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would you have less of a problem with their decision if they were atheists/agnostic?

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i would
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