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Old 06-04-2007, 08:34 PM
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folks i disagree. your turn c/c shows a lot of strength. your hand is not underrepped. he doesn't shove here for this much with a busted draw. you are toast imo.
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Old 06-04-2007, 08:44 PM
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folks i disagree. your turn c/c shows a lot of strength. your hand is not underrepped. he doesn't shove here for this much with a busted draw. you are toast imo.

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Besides 6's or AQ I can't think of a hand we're behind that plays like this.
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Old 06-04-2007, 08:57 PM
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folks i disagree. your turn c/c shows a lot of strength. your hand is not underrepped. he doesn't shove here for this much with a busted draw. you are toast imo.

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Besides 6's or AQ I can't think of a hand we're behind that plays like this.

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AA KK QQ AQ 88 66 22

it's a RR pot he doesn't have to raise a set or overpair on the flop here.

seriously what do you think he thinks we have, and if he has the best hand worse than KQ (QJ let's say), what worse hands from within our range does he expect us to call with? what better hands does he expect us to fold? just seems like a bad place for either a bluff or a value bet with a worse hand than ours.
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Old 06-04-2007, 08:59 PM
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why didn't you lead out on the turn? just curious
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Old 06-04-2007, 09:05 PM
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folks i disagree. your turn c/c shows a lot of strength. your hand is not underrepped. he doesn't shove here for this much with a busted draw. you are toast imo.

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Besides 6's or AQ I can't think of a hand we're behind that plays like this.

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AA KK QQ AQ 88 66 22

it's a RR pot he doesn't have to raise a set or overpair on the flop here.

seriously what do you think he thinks we have, and if he has the best hand worse than KQ (QJ let's say), what worse hands from within our range does he expect us to call with? what better hands does he expect us to fold? just seems like a bad place for either a bluff or a value bet with a worse hand than ours.

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It looks like we have a vulnerable hand that might fold to a push [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 06-04-2007, 09:43 PM
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Fold preflop. You will many times get killed calling here with KQ with yet another caller behind you. The problem with the hand is that it is very hard to get away from once you catch youir hand, but you can't bet it with great confidence, because your kicker is less than ideal.
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Old 06-04-2007, 09:47 PM
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These games play aggressive, but people aren't stacking off with hands you beat very often.
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Old 06-04-2007, 09:47 PM
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i dont know how strong ur reads are on villain, but whenever i play .75/1.50 DS on FTP i notice im playing with the most aggro/bluffy donks EVER (river shoving with all kinds of crap is included)

Also, as you obv know, dont fold pf, 3bet is fine 3 handed esp. to an aggro button raise.
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Old 06-04-2007, 09:50 PM
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im really surprised at the comments, i think he has exactly kk+
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Old 06-04-2007, 09:52 PM
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im really surprised at the comments, i think he has exactly kk+

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i highly highly highly doubt this is kk/aa
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