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Old 06-03-2007, 05:57 AM
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keiki your avatar still creeps the hell out of me
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Old 06-03-2007, 06:06 AM
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keiki your avatar still creeps the hell out of me

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Why? She's hot.
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Old 06-03-2007, 06:10 AM
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If you sit and stare at it for like 30 seconds or so youll see what I mean
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Old 06-03-2007, 06:33 AM
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Wtf is it with disconnect abusers on Party. Had to report yet another lil bugger, it's almost like someone is breeding them.
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Old 06-03-2007, 07:02 AM
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I'm really surprised -10BI is supposed to be standard. I've only lost 10BI once ever, and I was on huge monkeytilt. Multiple swings around -5BI, though.
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Old 06-03-2007, 07:05 AM
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I'm really surprised -10BI is supposed to be standard. I've only lost 10BI once ever, and I was on huge monkeytilt. Multiple swings around -5BI, though.

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You don't tilt that much then if you think 10BI is a lot, and you probably run really well.
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Old 06-03-2007, 07:15 AM
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You don't tilt that much then if you think 10BI is a lot, and you probably run really well.

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I've gotten my tilt mostly under control, yes. I also play pretty tight and don't get overly involved in preflop shenanigans unless provoked. I probably just play a low-variance style (SD/100 hands has been 40.2028 big bets according to PT). As to whether I run really well, I don't know. I was running slightly above expectation according to PokerEV, but not a lot.
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Old 06-03-2007, 05:40 PM
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I'm really surprised -10BI is supposed to be standard. I've only lost 10BI once ever, and I was on huge monkeytilt. Multiple swings around -5BI, though.

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I'm the same way.

TBH, I think we're missing a lot of marginally +EV bluffing situations that we don't make because they usually cost you a stack when you are picked off (i.e. our Cajones are small and shrivelled).

So let's say you've got a feel for it and you're making a lot of all-in bluffs where you're probably about +3-4 PTBB EV (on average) per hand (maybe less, just pulling a number outta my ass for illustration purposes). You're making a lot of money over the long term, but of course your variance is huge because you are basically swinging +/- a stack all the time.

For me, I know it's a bankroll issue. I need 40-50 buy-ins to start playing like a want to play.

For instance yesterday I opened for $15 with 66 in a live $3/$5 game and got 6 callers. Flop comes 693 and BB leads for $20 and gets a caller, I make it $120 and they fold. As this happened, it occurred to me that I should, of course, make the same bet with a [censored] shitton of hands, but of course, I don't, because I only have like 8 buyins for the game in my roll right now. Last year, before I cashed out to pay tuition, I would routinely bluff big in spots like this -- my roll was 25 buyins for that level and the money didn't matter as much.
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Old 06-03-2007, 06:59 PM
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I'm really surprised -10BI is supposed to be standard. I've only lost 10BI once ever, and I was on huge monkeytilt. Multiple swings around -5BI, though.

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I'm the same way.

TBH, I think we're missing a lot of marginally +EV bluffing situations that we don't make because they usually cost you a stack when you are picked off (i.e. our Cajones are small and shrivelled).

So let's say you've got a feel for it and you're making a lot of all-in bluffs where you're probably about +3-4 PTBB EV (on average) per hand (maybe less, just pulling a number outta my ass for illustration purposes). You're making a lot of money over the long term, but of course your variance is huge because you are basically swinging +/- a stack all the time.

For me, I know it's a bankroll issue. I need 40-50 buy-ins to start playing like a want to play.

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It's definitely not a bankroll issue for me. I've got ~20k online right now, spread over various sites. I should be moving up, but I still don't feel I'm really crushing 200NL, as I felt I was crushing 100NL before I moved up. I ran at 7+ PTBB over a significant sample there, whereas I'm ~4PTBB at 200NL lifetime. Maybe a much higher winrate isn't possible for a nit like me.

I just don't think I have the right feel for spots in which I should be making those big bluffs. The thing about Stars 200NL is that most regulars really really hate folding. I should have a really tight image, and I'm still constantly surprised by what people pay me off with in certain spots. Spots in which I'll never ever or very very rarely show them a bluff.

Earlier in the May cheese thread you commented on a hand where my opponent cold-called my RR from then SB, then check-called with QQ twice against my OESFD. That was a spot in which I show up with a bluff (or even a semibluff) very very rarely. I'm just not going to have a hand I can bluff with very often, and I c-bet into two players on an immensely wet board in a reraised pot! I decided to bluff there especially because of that, but I still got called, and really, I knew I was going to be called. I think I should've reverse-posted that hand, I really think everyone would've told me to fold.

I have been working on some things to get more tricky, though: shoving flops against light 3betters with overcards/gutshots, floating in RR pots and double barreling a bit more. All plays that increase my variance, but I think they're +EV, both in the long run and for shania when I get caught.

As an example, villain seemed like a pretty good TAG. Yada yada blind battle TPTK is the nuts, but I'm just never ever showing him a worse hand. I really think he should be folding AQ here, but most Stars 200NL regs are never going to! Until they do, I'm just going to show them a set in this spot every time.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

<u>SB: $198.00</u>
<u>Hero (BB): $236.20</u>
UTG: $225.00
CO: $429.45
BTN: $178.75

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 Players)
3 folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $8.00</font>, Hero calls $6.00

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($16) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $12.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $38.00</font>, SB calls $26.00

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($92) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $58.00</font>, <font color="red">SB raises all-in to $152.00</font>, Hero calls $94.00

<font color="black">River:</font> ($396) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $396.00 ($2 Rake)

SB had Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a pair of Queens) and LOST (-$198.00)
Hero had 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Eights) and WON (+$196.00)
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Old 06-03-2007, 07:42 AM
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Default Re: SSNL [cheese] thread: JUNE 2007 (nc)

suck it DC-biaattcchh


Dear xxxx,

Thank you for taking the time to report a potentially suspect usage of
the 'disconnect protect' feature.

We have thoroughly investigated xxxx's account history with a
particular focus on the player's previous usage of this feature.

We have found that the hand you reported to us was indeed suspicious
and
as the investigation has revealed further suspicious disconnects in the
past, we have proceeded to block the protection feature for this
account. In future, should the player disconnect, his/her hand will be
folded. The player concerned has been sent an email explaining the
reason for our actions.

If you need any further clarification, please do not hesitate to
contact
us.

Contact us anytime, we are available around the clock to assist you
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Sincerely,

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