FLORIDA ALLOWING POKER GAME STAKES TO BE RAISED IN JULY!

[Atomic]

It is not only poker players that want an increse in poker limits. Many people will benefit from an increased limit and the expected increase in total rake. The state will see an increase in revenue. Local governments with a parimutuel facility within their jurisdiction will see an increase in revenue. The horsemen and dog owners will see an increse in purses and awards. How else would Derby Lane be able to run a $1,000,000 race without a percentage of the poker rake being added to purses and awards?

With many groups benefiting from an incresed poker limit and by the margins that the bill passed both houses (senate 29-10, house 77-38) I don't think Crist is considering a veto. He might let it become law without his signature but he shouldn't veto it.

[Fishhead24]

Knowing DERBY LANE the way I do, even if this is passed, they will find a way to screw it up for the players. The one good thing about this is that it will stir competition from other venues such as TAMPA DOWNS, HARD ROCK, and TAMPA GREYHOUND. Been playing on the boat recently anyway and they offer no limit, 10-20, and other higher limit games..........plus one gets treated with comps.

[Truthiness24]

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It truly is amazing all the players that fork over 45 bucks to play in these horrible, horrible tournaments.

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We played at Sarasota KC last night and they dropped the fee to 32+8. This is in line with tourneys I've played in Vegas & AC, where I've paid 40+10 or 50+10.

Also, Tampa Bay Downs, before they closed for the summer, was charging 32+3 for their afternoon MTT as a promo. The market is starting to be heard.

Oh, and btw, my wife took it down last night ... beat 198 others & took home $1400 after expenses.

[Truthiness24]

On another note, we had a long talk with the manager of SKC last night, and he said that the following changes were going in (the following games will be offered) on 7/2:

- $3/$5 limit O8 (the new law only allows limit omaha)
- $1/$2 NLH, with a $60 min/max buyin
- $1/$2 NLH, with a $100 min/max buyin
- at the NL tables, he's going to do a table fee of $5 per 1/2 hour instead of a rake
- $3/$6, $6/$12, and $3/$6/$9/$9 limit holdem
- $2 to $5 spread limit stud & stud/8
- higher stakes for the tourneys, but he didn't say what yet ... I think it will depend on what the market dictates

They act like it's a done deal.

This isn't exactly what I'd want -- I want legal, wide-open, unlimited poker -- but it's a great first step.

[Atomic]

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- $3/$6, $6/$12, and $3/$6/$9/$9 limit holdem


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How will this be possible?

[Fishhead24]

Don't think it will be, not sure what that Sarasota manager is smoking, but it must be good stuff.

[Truthiness24]

He says that there is a loophole in the NL provisions of the law that allow these higher limits for holdem but not omaha or stud. He says that they studied the law pretty carefully -- at least as much as we have -- and that they have already cleared it with the regulatory folks that could object.

I thought it was was off when I heard it too, but I certainly wasn't going to tell him that I thought it was wrong. I think it's great that he's going to try it.

He also said that the law is only going to provide for $100 min/max NLH. I tried to argue what we discussed a few weeks ago in this thread, but he said no ... that they talked about it and decided that this is NOT what the law said. I didn't agree but it was going to be fruitless to try to argue. They have picked their battles, and IMO these are unique angles that none of us have even thought of. I hope that they read this stuff because I have nothing but good things to say about them.

I do believe that some track is going to push it and try to open tables without a max buyin, or at least a max in excess of $100. I just don't see where this is restricted by the law as passed. But SKC isn't going to be the one to try it, at least not yet.

I got the impression that at SKC they were really going out of their way to listen to the players and take an expansive view of the changes so as to make us (and them) as happy as they think they can. It was a positive experience to talk to the guy.

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there is no way they can spread 6-12. the new law to be says 5 max on any street except for no-limit.

[VOX]

I think the loophole mentioned is a "no limit" game where all the players agree to bet in $6 increments preflop and on the flop, and $12 on the turn and the river. Of course, that still means the $100 cap is in play, so new players have to sit down with 8BBs. Fun!

[Fishhead24]

Ok, that's what I thought.

Give me the $5 rake then.