QQ in 3bet pot, facing shove on flop (NL50)

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This guy will definitely 2 barrel AK and I know that so what is our turn plan after smooth calling? Guess I should have put that in the OP. But if his 3bet range is 1010+ and AK and he will 2 barrel the whole range sometimes and other times he will check the whole range (by that I mean he will 2 barrel AK some and check turn with AA some) what would my turn plan be as we are still stuck right in the middle of his range. This is against a compotent NL50 player is what I'm trying to say.

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let him shove with TT, JJ AK then

raising just gets the hands you beat to fold which can be fine but if he's going to put in more money with hands you beat let him

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If I unerstand this correctly you are both saying that this raise should basically always be air? I'm just trying to clarify (sorry if its coming across badly). This is definitely not my standard play and thats part of the reason I had a tough decision.

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If I unerstand this correctly you are both saying that this raise should basically always be air? I'm just trying to clarify (sorry if its coming across badly). This is definitely not my standard play and thats part of the reason I had a tough decision.

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not exactly, I'd raise the flop where I felt comfortable folding to the shove, or calling the shove and I wouldn't always raise with hands I was autocalling the shove either

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Ok. Sorry for the really confusing post as I don't usually post like this, but I was BB and the btn (Hero in this hand) was CMAR. I was trying to get a feel for what he would raise me with that folded to a shove, but in retrospect this probably wasn't the best way to approach it. If Cry would chime in that would be great, but if he doesn't want to say what he had then thats ok too.

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sorry I forgot about this thread...

I wasn't suggesting that every time I raise this flop (or any flop for that matter), I have the nuts or air. I'm just trying get you, or CMAR, or anyone else who would raise in this spot, to think and understand *WHY* they're raising. Is it for value? Protection? Information? As a bluff?
Telling you not to raise the flop without explaining why won't really help you or anyone else.

And thinking about this type of stuff should get you to realize why calling in this spot is probably a better play.

P.S. I hope I'm not coming off as a douche in these posts, but thinking on this level has really opened up my game.

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No, I undestand that, but I was just trying to figure what he would raise/fold in that spot, but I didn't post in a manner that allowed for that discussion easily. I have no idea what he actually held in this spot. FWIW, I smooth call here over 90% of the time and decide whether to commit on the turn most times if I have QQ.