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Old 02-27-2006, 04:50 PM
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Default Re: ZeeJustin at PokerStars, encore

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It's odd that most everyone else is so trusting of these sites to always do the correct thing.

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I really don't see a choice, do you?

We are talking about players from around the world, not just the US (I'm Canadian btw) so talking about US case law is incorrect for a lot of us.

Given the quasi-legal nature of the whole business in Norht America you have to vote with your $$$, because you have no other recourse.

If we don't like how a site deals with it, we can leave.

Its up to the players to pressure the sites into doing the right thing, because all the sites care about is the rake and if their reputation is getting in the way of making more rake, they fix it or die.

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Woodguy

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Certainly our choices would be appear to be limited in these matters. However, I still don't understand the blind faith in Party's ability to accurately and fairly determine when funds should be seized. This is a company that designed easily exploitable software, recorded these exploits, collected fees from the people doing the exploiting and then ignored the matter until people complained about it, at which point they then added over six figures to their bottom line by seizing the funds of the cheaters they had previously ignored.

They're the good guys in this situation?
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Old 02-27-2006, 04:59 PM
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Default Re: ZeeJustin at PokerStars, encore

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Certainly our choices would be appear to be limited in these matters. However, I still don't understand the blind faith in Party's ability to accurately and fairly determine when funds should be seized. This is a company that designed easily exploitable software, recorded these exploits, collected fees from the people doing the exploiting and then ignored the matter until people complained about it, at which point they then added over six figures to their bottom line by seizing the funds of the cheaters they had previously ignored.

They're the good guys in this situation?

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I agree that the choices are limited, and that's not a good thing.

My question to you then is, if you don't trust the site to do the right thing, what are you going to do?

What's the other alternative to having Party in charge of Party?

If you are uncomfortable with Party being in charge, that's your perrogative, so are you just leaving or are there other measures that you would take?

I actually agree with you, I am uncomfortable with Stars and their stance, so I'm leaving.

I am glad that Stars is smart enough to have different punishments for different crimes, but I do no think they have gone far enough in this case.
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Old 02-27-2006, 05:15 PM
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Default Re: ZeeJustin at PokerStars, encore

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Certainly our choices would be appear to be limited in these matters. However, I still don't understand the blind faith in Party's ability to accurately and fairly determine when funds should be seized. This is a company that designed easily exploitable software, recorded these exploits, collected fees from the people doing the exploiting and then ignored the matter until people complained about it, at which point they then added over six figures to their bottom line by seizing the funds of the cheaters they had previously ignored.

They're the good guys in this situation?

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I agree that the choices are limited, and that's not a good thing.

My question to you then is, if you don't trust the site to do the right thing, what are you going to do?

What's the other alternative to having Party in charge of Party?

If you are uncomfortable with Party being in charge, that's your perrogative, so are you just leaving or are there other measures that you would take?

I actually agree with you, I am uncomfortable with Stars and their stance, so I'm leaving.

I am glad that Stars is smart enough to have different punishments for different crimes, but I do no think they have gone far enough in this case.

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Personally at this point I feel no need withdraw my money from either site and while I do not begrudge your decision to leave pokerstars in favor of Party, I simply disagree as I feel Pokerstars policy to this point is more sensible.

You are right that, as long as online gaming remains unregulated individuals consumers will have to decide what they can live with. I just hope that everyone realizes what it is they are actually giving up.
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