USC/Texas opinions

[thatpfunk]

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“Their coaches are in no way a wash. Look at USC's defensive record with more than a week of preparation. They are their strongest showings; PC makes incredible gameplans.”

Ok look, Texas is not shallow at Defensive coordinator, look up who the guy is before you go too far into this love fest. Also note that Penn State revamped their offense this year with the help of the Texas coaching staff, again USC may have an edge but I doubt it’s huge.

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this is silly. texas has good coaches, no one is saying they aren't good. whose staff would you want coaching your team in this game? PC's teams have a history of playing significantly better/their best with more than a weeks preparation. their OCs have consistently made the best 2nd half adjustments in the NCAA, especially in important games.

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”MB is notorious for not winning big games.”

This one has always gotten me about Texas, Florida State, Florida, Ten, VT ect ect. If these teams lose it’s a big game, if they win it was expected. Go figure.

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UT has one big game every year. What is MB's record in that game? Are you saying they shouldn't have been expected to actually win this year?


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“Also, USC's defense matches up well with Texas. The teams that were most successful against their D were short-passing, West Coast-style. Their weakness is their defensive backs. However, the defense does not give up big plays; it is the short pass that kills them.”

What? I had the pleasure of watching USC live this year and several times on TV. Other teams scored on big plays, Fresno was methodical down the field but that is Fresno.

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The most successful offenses vs the USC defense was that style of offense. Why don't you actually look something up: ASU 28 pts, Notre Dame 31 pts, FSU 42. That's it for the whole year. Running the ball wasn't exactly these teams's strength. You better believe the UT has to score at least 28 to win.


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“Texas, on the otherhand, relies much upon big plays from VY. He scrambles, WR's get behind the defense, big play ensues.”

Don’t forget he just has designed runs, 3 RB’s that run sub 4.4’s, one that’s as big as a DE, an All American TE, 3 better than average receivers, and a stout set of lineman. Go look at the players, this offense lost a top first round draft pick RB last year, their best WR, TE and got better. Also while your at it look up Romance Taylor’s numbers for Texas and compare his yards per touch to Bush. I think you’ll be surprised. Texas is not a bunch of scrubs and then VY, VY just happens to be driving the car, and looking pretty good doing it.

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I'm not calling these players scrubs. Where did I even imply this? USC matches up well with this offense. Their front seven is strong and athletic. Texas can't rely on being the better athletes here. Forcing a team like UT into 12-17 play drives is ideal for USC.

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“USC will not give this up;”
Ohio State, OU, Kansas (yes Kansas) all thought pretty much the same, Texas Tech did also but nobody gives them credit for having the LB’s required to slow young.

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Obviously UT will have some big plays. They will also put together some long drives. I'm not saying their offense is going to get shutdown. I'm expecting USC to score a lot of points, I don't think UT will be able to go drive for drive with them. A three-and-out here, a TO here, USC can jump to a lead really easy. Of course UT has the chance to do this as well, I just think USC has a greater chance of this occuring.
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“They have very athletic LB's which are athletic.”

Oh come on now did you really write that? USC’s best LB is now in Seattle and they have 2 Frosh and a Soph starting, they are good and fast but still young.

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Having fast, athletic LBs is the best defense against VY, thats all.


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“VY will be forced into turnovers, another stat in which USC excels.”

The Longhorns put the ball on the ground a little too much, most of that has been the new running backs, but VY has also thrown some odd INT’s, but most of them are of the Tip variety.

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And USC seems to force a lot of these quirky TO's. I can't find their exact spot, but I believe they are extremely high in the giveaway:takeaway ratio. A few TO's either way could swing this game quite a bit. I'm simply stating that it is more likely that USC benefits from this.

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”Texas' defense is good. They also played in the Big-12, not an offensive powerhouse. They have never seen an offense like USC.”

An I formation offense that run’s 40% of the time, primarily runs to C and D gaps of the strong side pulling one or both guards. Most pass routes are fairly short under the safety routes designed to set up the wheel play. In short yardage they run A&B gaps 60% of the time and work the fade well? Nope never seen an offense like that, except in practice every day.

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Do I have to spell it out? USC is much, much better than any offense they have played all year.

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”USC is playing a home game. They have done this before. If they fall behind early, they have the perfet offense to comeback. UT falling behind early is ideal for USC.”

Tell that to Michigan, Ohio State, Oklahoma State(twice), TAMU, ect ect

In fact I’m not sure you can find a much more hostile environment to play a game than the Horseshoe. Texas seemed to do fine. Maybe the Swamp or at Tenn. would be worse but frankly the fans aren’t as exciting on the west coast here.

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Michigan? They didn't play Michigan. tOSU- 22pts, Okie St- 28pts, TAMU- 29 pts... USC's offense is significantly better than all of those teams'. Their big play potential is probably greater than all those teams' combined. Plus, Reggies is returning kicks.

A home game is an advantage, as slight as you want to believe it to be. USC players get to go home and relax after practice and media. UT players, not so much.

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”Those are most of my reasons.”

Look if your serious about wanting to lay 20 points I'm sure some healthy money is willing to take it.

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I don't WANT to lay 20 points. I'm not mentaly impaired. I ran my mouth about how good I thought USC was and VY called me out on it (during the 1st or 2nd game of the season. i said something like USC is 21 points better than every other team in the nation. we bet that on them vs any bowl opponent for 17.5). I put my money where my mouth was. I know it's a horrible bet, but I'm not gonna run my mouth and then not put my money up when someone disagrees.

[slavic]

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I don't WANT to lay 20 points. I'm not mentaly impaired. I ran my mouth about how good I thought USC was and VY called me out on it (during the 1st or 2nd game of the season. i said something like USC is 21 points better than every other team in the nation. we bet that on them vs any bowl opponent for 17.5). I put my money where my mouth was. I know it's a horrible bet, but I'm not gonna run my mouth and then not put my money up when someone disagrees.

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So you are ok with offering me two dimes laying 17.5?

[craig]

Slavic,

I meant to reply to your thread and not edit it. Sorry about that. Below is what I had posted:

There is obviously a difference of him doing it then and doing it now. It would be no different than him offering your bet above to you if USC is up by 20 with 1 minute left and the ball.

craig

[thatpfunk]

wtf are you talking about slavic? do i think USC wins the game handily- yes? does that mean that i should take bad bets? this occurred at the beginning of season. i knew there was a huge chance that i was taking a bad bet.

why not intelligently respond with how you disagree rather than post inane stuff? i didn't bring up a spread in this thread, craig and VY were making fun of the bet. i listed my reasons why i would take USC at the currently offered spreads.