5.20 sopranos

[ajml]

How many are left after this weeks?

[NU Star]

YES! BITE THE [censored] CURB BITCH

[dankhank]

probably my favorite episode so far this season. i can better appreciate what some of the earlier, weaker episodes of this season have been building up to thematically.

(but i am a weirdo)

[DeezNuts]

Two episodes left after this one.

Just when it was starting to get consistently interesting again.

I think i may throw away my tv after the final season of The Wire.

[roaaahhh]

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Two episodes left after this one.

Just when it was starting to get consistently interesting again.

I think i may throw away my tv after the final season of The Wire.

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i dont know what to add to this, other then hd sports and cool discovery channel shows, you're basically right.

[llayner]

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Two episodes left after this one.

Just when it was starting to get consistently interesting again.

I think i may throw away my tv after the final season of The Wire.

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i dont know what to add to this, other then hd sports and cool discovery channel shows, you're basically right.

[/ QUOTE ]

Maybe after crab fishing season.

[djoyce003]

Good episode.

I've thought for a few weeks that the war with NY is inevitable and it appears to be the case now.

I think the writing on the Phil character is excellent. Phil is all about ego and not about business at all. He consistently makes unwise business decisions because of ego. Case in point the asbestos thing. He wants a much larger cut than the previous guy was taking, and he's unwilling to negotiate, he thinks he can just dictate terms.

Even in the conversation, he said something to the effect of, those were my terms, it wasn't an offer. Basically take my terms and screw off. He doesn't appear to realize he's talking to another family boss, he clearly sees Tony as an underling/beneath him. I think this is going to ultimately be a VERY large mistake.

This time, Phil's unwillingness to bend lost his guys their no-show jobs, which makes them more vulnerable to prosecution, loses them health insurance, etc. He doesn't take into account the consequences of his actions, he just goes by ego alone.

The problem with Phil is that his hate for Tony is so large because of the Blundetto thing. Despite Tony killing his own cousin for Phil, Phil still can't forgive him. Tony was out of line by beating up the made-guy for what he said. Regardless of what he said and who he said it to, it should have been a discussion between Tony and Phil first. Then if they couldn't come to a resolution, Tony at least could say he tried. That didn't happen here, and a lot of it had to do with the previous Phil unwillingness to negotiate. It's on now so to speak.

[Brocktoon]

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Tony was out of line by beating up the made-guy for what he said.

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Pffft. You are probably the ONLY person watching the show who thinks that.

[pirateboy]

It's always been my understanding that family is off-limits, and any action towards them is a personal attack.

[dozer]

To me, Tony has made the decision to side with his family over the mafia. Symbolism of that is him picking out the tooth from his cuff while in the meeting with his family (and AJ's therapist). He's tossing his business to cater to his family.

The turning points in this wrestling match in his mind (which has been the basis of the whole show) was saving AJ and ultimately comforting him, sending him off in the hospital, making the Mom-as-the-bus-driver reference, not giving a [censored] about Phil yelling at him from the top of Phil's house, and walking off with AJ in the hospital.

It's like he's finally realized that business isn't everything. Family is.

But the problem is, he can't just make the business side of things disappear ...