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Old 02-24-2006, 10:59 AM
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Default Re: Phil Ivey vs. Andy Beal

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He's a poker player with a reported bankroll of over a million dollars.

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*raises pinkie to lips* one... miiiiiiilllllion dollars!

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one biiiiiiiilion dollars!
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Old 02-24-2006, 11:05 AM
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Default Re: Phil Ivey vs. Andy Beal

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I wonder if Ivey just sat down and beat him or if The Corperation analyzed the last match and booked him up.

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I think Ivey just spanked him, that dude is crazy good.
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Old 02-24-2006, 11:27 AM
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Default Re: Phil Ivey vs. Andy Beal

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He's a poker player with a reported bankroll of over a million dollars.

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*raises pinkie to lips* one... miiiiiiilllllion dollars!

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try

one biiiiiiiilion dollars!

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Old 02-26-2006, 12:21 AM
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Default Re: Phil Ivey vs. Andy Beal

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well he plays poker so he's a poker player.

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This is incorrect. See the previously posted link for details.

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he has a huge roll (exact figure unknown but it's big)

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Rumor is that his bankroll is over one million dollars.

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Are we talking about poker player Andy Beal?

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No, because as has been explained, Andy Beal IS NOT A POKER PLAYER. Again, you may wish to read the earlier link, as it provides some details.
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Old 02-26-2006, 02:07 AM
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Default Re: Phil Ivey vs. Andy Beal

I normally don't get this way, but to all those who are swooning on about "Andy Beal is a poker player with a million dollar bankroll," grow up and get a [censored] clue! Do you think a million dollar bankroll is something special? I can name a couple dozen people off the top of my head who have over a million dollar bankroll. In this day and age of poker, it isn't something that extraordenary.

When you are worth as much as Andy Beal, the concept of a bankroll simply becomes whatever he decides he wishes to risk loosing. To a man like Andy Beal, a business transaction where he makes or looses $10 million is not unusual.
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Old 02-26-2006, 02:14 AM
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get a [censored] clue!

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Good advice.
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Old 02-26-2006, 04:58 AM
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Ivy > Beal

End of story.
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Old 02-26-2006, 07:32 AM
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Default Re: Phil Ivey vs. Andy Beal

Andy Beal is a banker with very very high level math ability. He is a multi-multi- milionaire, maybe a billionaire. Anyway for a while Beal was involved in an on and off game against a group of players that included Ted Forrest, Doyle and Todd Brunson, Jennifer Harman, Barry Greenstein, Howard Lederer, Chiau Xiang and some others on and off including Ivey. These people pooled their rolls and rotated in and out against Beal in heads up limit hold-em. At one point, they were playing as high as 50,000-100,000 and I believe 100,000-200,000.

The book mentioned above is a great read.
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Old 02-26-2006, 08:16 AM
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I would assume that Beal played a system and if that is the case and he had it figured out pretty close to perfection by running countless simulations, why did he raise the stakes? If he had any edge at all, then he should try to grind it out rather than trying to score a quick one.

By raising the stakes it became clear that he didn't try to prove the quality of his analysis. Accepting short term luck shows that he was just trying to beat the pros to boost his ego and nothing else. I am afraid that it wasn't a serious attempt to tackle the game from a theoretical standpoint.
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Old 02-26-2006, 11:03 AM
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Default Re: Phil Ivey vs. Andy Beal

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I would assume that Beal played a system and if that is the case and he had it figured out pretty close to perfection by running countless simulations, why did he raise the stakes? If he had any edge at all, then he should try to grind it out rather than trying to score a quick one.

By raising the stakes it became clear that he didn't try to prove the quality of his analysis. Accepting short term luck shows that he was just trying to beat the pros to boost his ego and nothing else. I am afraid that it wasn't a serious attempt to tackle the game from a theoretical standpoint.

[/ QUOTE ]you should read the book before you run your mouth.

andy plain well knows that pros have many advantages compared to him, i.e decades of live play. one way to negate some of these advantages was to play at limits higher than what the pros would be comfortable with. you may be the best in the world, but when you're making it a couple bets to go pre-flop and the pot is almost a million dollars, you can't really be that comfortable.

the corporation is looking for a fat whale, and andy beal is looking for ways to beat the best in the world. he beat many of the best in the world in sessions, he also lost to many of the best in the world too.
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