Ron Paul on CNN at 7EST tonite (5/16)

[iron81]

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I didn't watch the debate, how did he do and what was this tussle?

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They like him in the Legislation Forum too. Linky

[lehighguy]

I didn't see the tussle. I saw the Sean Hannity interview afterwards. Basically, Ron Paul said our interventionist foreign policy in the Middle East may be partially responsible for 9/11. Rudy (captain 9/11) said they were all just pure evil crazies and America shares none of the blame.

[Taso]

And he's right. Blaming Americans, instead of the terrorists who attacked us, is probably the most silly idea I've ever heard.

[AlexM]

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And he's right. Blaming Americans, instead of the terrorists who attacked us, is probably the most logical idea I've ever heard.

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FYP

You do realize that people don't generally attack those much stronger than them without provocation, right?

[niss]

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And he's right. Blaming Americans, instead of the terrorists who attacked us, is probably the most silly idea I've ever heard.

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The fact that people jump all over the suggestion that part of the resolution of the problem of middle eastern terrorism might involve an analysis of our own policies is downright scary.

[mark_foley]

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And he's right. Blaming Americans, instead of the terrorists who attacked us, is probably the most silly idea I've ever heard.

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The fact that people jump all over the suggestion that part of the resolution of the problem of middle eastern terrorism might involve an analysis of our own policies is downright scary.

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No don't you get it. America is good, Muslims is bad. They hate us for our freedom.

[bobman0330]

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And he's right. Blaming Americans, instead of the terrorists who attacked us, is probably the most silly idea I've ever heard.

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It seems that there's a lot of fuzziness about causation, blame, responsibility, and other such words. Obviously American policies partially caused 9/11. Al Qaeda didn't target us just for fun. It was because we threaten what they perceive to be their interests.

But it doesn't necessarily follow that the US is responsible or to blame. At least in my mind, those terms carry a certain moral element.

[nietzreznor]

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But it doesn't necessarily follow that the US is responsible or to blame. At least in my mind, those terms carry a certain moral element.

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Well, the 'US' certainly isn't to blame, in the sense that bombing buildings is wrong and people who do such things should always shoulder much of the blame.

That said, I also hate saying that 'America' of the 'US' helped cause the problem, since such collective terms mask who the real perpetrators are (the individuals composing the US govt who had a hand in authorizing our terrible foreign policy). These people--not the average US citizen, or 'America', or whatever, should face responsibility for all the damge they've cause on other countries, action that provided substantial motivation for 9/11, etc.

[AzDesertRat]

Though I am not completely disagreeing with you, who gets killed in the Middle East from our policies: leaders or the people? You don't see GW or Saddam out leading the troops--it is done by proxy.

There is an African saying: When elephants fight, it is the grass that gets trampled.

[Borodog]

It amazes me how Republicans mouth off about keeping the Federal government out of people's lives . . . unless they live on another continent.