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Old 05-14-2007, 04:56 AM
gimmetheloot gimmetheloot is offline
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Default Re: AJs, 3 bet pot vs shorty. Flop plan?

1/2 pot or c/f is fine IMO. I am thinking c/f is a little better v likely, unless this tardard is calling with 77 etc pf...then a bet is a little better IMO.
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Old 05-14-2007, 09:45 AM
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Default Re: AJs, 3 bet pot vs shorty. Flop plan?

eh, I just c/f here most of the time until I've seen him play some. Some shorties love to push scary cards/flops...and some love to just call PF/fold their stack away.
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Old 05-14-2007, 09:50 AM
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Default Re: AJs, 3 bet pot vs shorty. Flop plan?

i kinda need a read on the shortie. if he has like 30+VPIP im probably betting and calling a shove. if he has a tighter range id probably c/f.

against an unknown shortie i just basically give up on the flop unless he shows weakness.
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Old 05-14-2007, 10:05 AM
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Default Re: AJs, 3 bet pot vs shorty. Flop plan?

Wow, that's a tough spot. You are pretty much creamed by any reasonable 3-bet-calling range, but we're readless so maybe that's to much to assume.

I hate bet/folding because I never believe a shorty when he pushes and would probably call anyways. How about check/fold the flop, and bet the turn if he checks?

I guess we shouldn't be 3-betting shorties light because of this kind of dilemma.
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Old 05-14-2007, 09:50 AM
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Default Re: AJs, 3 bet pot vs shorty. Flop plan?

I like betting 2/3pot and folding to a raise, or giving up much better then c/folding.
though you're never getting called by worse hands,
you have the best hand here a fair share of the time,
and not betting pretty much forfeits all of those times.
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Old 05-14-2007, 09:55 AM
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Default Re: AJs, 3 bet pot vs shorty. Flop plan?

i think there are many worse hands/draws that can shove over our bet on this flop. this is why betting puts us in such a chitay spot. even if we do get it in on the flop and we are ahead, villain is usually drawing pretty live.

for this reason id like a read on the shortie, otherwise im playing this very cautious if he is an unknown.
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Old 05-14-2007, 10:03 AM
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Default Re: AJs, 3 bet pot vs shorty. Flop plan?

I have no idea what to do on the flop and this is why I wouldn't 3bet it preflop.
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Old 05-14-2007, 10:18 AM
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I have no idea what to do on the flop and this is why I wouldn't 3bet it preflop.

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so true
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