Official Full Tilt Poker Response to Bot Thread

[Our House]

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There needs to be some sort of middle ground.

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There already is. We're just too involved in the 2+2 lifestyle to realize it.

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Obviously I don't want poker sites confiscating funds right and left over any little matter, as that would lead to horrible problems.

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No reputable poker sites have done this yet. When we read about it happening, it's usually the most extreme examples.

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And obviously I don't want botters/scammers/cheaters running amok either.

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No reputable poker sites have allowed this yet. When we read about it happening, it's usually the most extreme examples.

I guess you can see my point. Middle ground situations DO occur. They just aren't enough of a publicity attraction to be made public. It's been like that for a long time. I remember several instances where Party conducted investigations and closed accounts of cheaters that were local to my area (New York/New Jersey). The only reason I know about them is because of the live game circle I was in. One of my casual player friends even had his account temporarily closed because he happened to be at the wrong tables at the wrong times; and he played so badly that Party thought he had to be part of this cheating ring. His account was reopened, but the other actual colluders never saw their accounts or their money again.

There is no 2+2 assistance in many of these "quiet" cases and they're NOT generally made public. I'm sure there are lots of situations that are handled solely by poker sites.

Probably 90+% of the world of poker occurs outside of 2+2. Yet, for some reason, most of our poker experience is based upon events from inside. It's an unfair bias.

[Bellagibro]

I for one need a better answer than, "We can't prove without a doubt that they are bots, so we'll let them play and if we catch them in the future, we'll cross that bridge when we get there."

[ALLEN BOND]

Absurd response. People guilty openly admitted to using scripted tools, FTP did nothing to close their accounts.

No example was set.

You are not allowed to bring tools to a live game, why should you be allowed to use automated scripts online?

[Bellagibro]

My question is do you know of any bots that have been banned by FTP? I still have those super short buy in guys that play 7/5 all in preflop poker.

[KurtSF]

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Absurd response. People guilty openly admitted to using heads up displays, FTP did nothing to close their accounts.

No example was set.

You are not allowed to bring tools to a live game, why should you be allowed to use a HUD online?

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You are going to have to realize that it is not ultimately ethics which guides what is and not allowable, but expectations. The sites Terms and Conditions (their "rules") in the end instruct us on what is expected and what is allowed.

[cassette]

Wow. [censored] FT.

[PerDoom]

Hey FT,

Bye.

[Weatherhead03]

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Wow. [censored] FT.

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