NL Bots on Full Tilt

[viper930]

also something ive noticed from playing with these guys for many tens of thousands of hands is that they joyfully nut themselves stacking off with AA.

Now, I understand folding AA isnt something that many people like to do, but in full ring there are some VERY obvious spots to pitch the hand. None of these guys have laid down AA from what I've seen no matter how obvious it is that theyre beat from the action. You'd think a coupla fairly smart guys would figure this out.

[DWarrior]

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also something ive noticed from playing with these guys for many tens of thousands of hands is that they joyfully nut themselves stacking off with AA.

Now, I understand folding AA isnt something that many people like to do, but in full ring there are some VERY obvious spots to pitch the hand. None of these guys have laid down AA from what I've seen no matter how obvious it is that theyre beat from the action. You'd think a coupla fairly smart guys would figure this out.

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Do you see how this has nothing to do with any of the theories so far?

Right now the predominating theory is that the bot overseer takes over post-flop, so either way this wouldn't happen. You're just criticizing their play.

[action44]

THANK GOD FOR THIS THREAD.. The fact FTP hasnt been in here says the dont give a [censored] or dont care theyre customers are upset.. I wont be back there...EVERYOTHER DAY SOMEONE IS COMPLAINING ABOUT FTP.. THIS ACTUALLY IS GOOD FOR ME MAYBE PEOPLE WILL COME OVER TO STARS.. I WILL BE TELLING MY POKER NETWORK ABOUT THIS WHETHER TRUE OR NOT FTP BLOWS COME TO STARSLOLOOOLLOOLLOLOL

[wims]

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THANK GOD FOR THIS THREAD.. The fact FTP hasnt been in here says the dont give a [censored] or dont care theyre customers are upset.. I wont be back there...EVERYOTHER DAY SOMEONE IS COMPLAINING ABOUT FTP.. THIS ACTUALLY IS GOOD FOR ME MAYBE PEOPLE WILL COME OVER TO STARS.. I WILL BE TELLING MY POKER NETWORK ABOUT THIS WHETHER TRUE OR NOT FTP BLOWS COME TO STARSLOLOOOLLOOLLOLOL

[/ QUOTE ]This post makes no sense, why would you want the 2p2ers to move to stars? Unless of course you plan to stay at ftp or have an owner interrest in stars or something

[action44]

If this becomes common SOP for fulltilt the fishies will come...Also word of mouth travels a long way...If you were just starting to learn about poker, 2+2, ect. And read this thread would your go to fulltilt or stars? gltu @ftbotpoker.lol

[Danieln]

I guess that story is somehwat plausible, but it sounds so contrived to me.

The amount of discipline required to play exactly the same way over thousands and thousands of hands is extraordinary. To expect that not just one person, but mutiple people are doing this and they all happen to be playing from the same IP address is really stretching it IMO.

Are these accounts ever not playing simultaneously? I mean I've played over at a friend's place before and vice versa but this guy seems to be suggesting that the only time they're playing is when they're together. If I was that into poker that I was putting in thousands of hands on a regular basis I think I'd put in some hands from the comfort of my own home on occassion, not just when I was with my friends. If these are indeed bots though it makes sense that they're always playing from the same IP address. If you had mutiple bot accounts why run just one when you can have several playing. Does none of them ever get sick or have other obligations that they might not make it to play that day?

He acknowledges that they're playing every day together and for very long hours, but he tries it to make it sound like just a group of friends "shooting the [censored]" and playing poker. I mean who really does that? Is my [censored] meter just overly sensitive or does anyone else not see multi-tabling over tons of hours every day as a leisurely activity?

Who here has multiple friends that play online poker on the same site you do, at the same time and for long hours like you do, and also at the same stakes you do but you have never played a single hand with them? Anyone? I know I'll sit on the same table of someone I know just to [censored] with them or we'll play occasionally sit at a low limit table and screw around. You know you're not colluding so you don't even think twice about it. If you were using bots though I can see why you'd make a point never to have them play at the same table to help prevent scrutiny. If these truly are a group of friends just having a good time together I'd expect them to act more like friends and maybe donk it up on a micro table or play HU on occassion. If you were a bunch of bots though, what's the point?

Also, who shares profits like that? Swapping out pieces of yourself with others in a tourney or staking someone is one thing, but for a group of people to grind it out in cash games every day and distribute the wins and losses sounds like more BS. That excuse does cover the bases though if it was just a single person swapping money around multiple accounts.

The whole tone of that guy's statement seems like he's trying to justify his "friend's" behavior. He didn't just say "Hey, I know this guy. He's my friend and I can vouch that he isn't a cheater." He instead specifically makes a point of justifying certain behaviors and mentions several times how they all comply with FullTilt's terms and conditions.

Hi, my name is JJProdigy. What's that? Multiple accounts? Ohh no, that was just my elderly grandmother that I'm teaching poker over at my house playing a large buy-in MTT on an account I created for her. . .

[Our House]

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None of these guys have laid down AA from what I've seen

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How would you know that unless you can see the other sides of their cards?